The Qur'an and the Bible, in the light of Science
Dialogue between Dr. Zakir Naik Vs. Dr.
William Campbell
(Dr. Zakir)
…(Arabic)…
Respected Dr. William Campbell, Dr. Maracuss, Dr. Jamal Badavi, Br. Samuel
Nauman, Dr. Mohammed Naik, my respected elders and my dear brothers and
sisters, I welcome all of you with the Islamic greetings… ‘As Salaamo Alaikum Wa Rahmatullahi
Wa Barkatahu. May peace mercy
and blessings of Allah Subhanawataala be on all of you. The topic of today’s
dialogue is ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of Science.’ The
Glorious Qur’an is the last and final
Revelation which was revealed to the last and final Messenger Prophet Mohammed,
peace be upon him. For any book to claim that it is a Revelation from Almighty
God, it should stand the test of time. Previously in the olden days, it was the
age of miracles - Alhamdulillah, the Qur’an
is the miracle of miracles. Later on came the age of literature and poetry, and
Muslims and Non Muslims alike, they claim the Glorious Qur’an to be the best Arabic literature available on the face of
the Earth. But today is the age of science and technology. Let us analyze
whether the Qur’an is compatible or
incompatible with modern science. Albert Einstein said… ‘Science without
Religion is lame, and Religion without Science is blind’. Let me remind you
that the Glorious Qur’an is not a
book of Science…S-C-I-E-N-C-E, It is a book of signs S-I-G-N-S… It is a book of
Ayats. And there more than 6000 signs… Ayats
in the Glorious Qur’an out of which
more than a thousand speak about science. As far as my talk regarding Qur’an and Science is concerned, I will
only be speaking about scientific facts which has been established. I will not
be speaking about scientific hypothesis and theories, which are based on
assumption without any proof, because we all know many a times science takes
U-turns. Dr. William Campbell who wrote a reply to the book of Dr. Maurice
Bucaille… ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and
science’ - He says in his book, that there are two types of approaches. One is
a concordance approach - Which means a person tries to bring compatibility
between the Scripture and science. And the other is the conflict approach, in
which a person tries to bring a conflict between Scripture and science, like
how Dr. William Campbell has done very well. But as far as the Qur’an is concerned, irrespective
whether a person uses a conflicting approach, or a concordance approach – As
long as you are logical, and after a logical explanation is given to you, not a
single person will be able to prove a single Verse of the Qur’an, in conflict with established modern science. Dr. William
Campbell has pointed out various alleged scientific errors in the Qur’an, and I am supposed to actually
refute in the rebuttal. But since he chose to speak first, I will be refuting a
few points in my talk - I will reply to the major part of his talk, mainly
dealing with Embryology and with Geology. The remaining InshaAllah, InshaAllah,
I will try my level best to reply in the rebuttal. I have to do both - I cannot
do injustice to the topic. The topic is… ‘Qur’an
and Bible in the light of Science.’ I
cannot only speak about one Scripture - Dr. William Campbell hardly spoke about
one or two points about the Bible,
which I will deal with InshaAllah. I will speak about both InshaAllah, - I want
to do justice to the topic. As far as Qur’an
and modern Science is concerned, in the field of ‘Astronomy’, the Scientists,
the Astronomers, a few decades earlier, they described, how the universe came
into existence - They call it the ‘Big Bang’. And they said… ‘Initially there
was one primary nebula, which later on it separated with a Big Bang, which gave
rise to Galaxies, Stars, Sun and the Earth, we live in.’ This information is
given in a nutshell in the Glorious Qur’an,
in Surah Ambiya, Ch. 21, Verse No. 30, which says…. (Arabic).... Do not the
unbelievers see…? …. (Arabic)…. ‘That the heavens and the earth were joined
together, and we clove them asunder.’ Imagine this information which we came to
know recently, the Qur’an mentions 14
hundred years ago. When I was in school, I had learned that the Sun in respect
to the Earth - it was stationary - the Earth and the Moon, they rotated about
in axis, but the sun was stationary. But when I read a Verse of the Qur’an saying, in Surah Al–Ambiya, Ch. . 21 Verse
No. 33, it says…. (Arabic). … ‘It is Allah who has created the night and the
day.’…. (Arabic)…. The sun and the moon…. (Arabic)…. Each one travelling in an
orbit with its own motion. Now Alhamdulillah, modern science has confirmed the Qur’anic statement. The Arabic word used
in the Qur’an is ‘Yasbahoon’, which describes the motion of a moving body. When it
refers to a celestial body, it means it is rotating about its own axis. So Qur’an says the sun and the Moon, they
revolve as well as rotate about their own axis. Today we have come to know that
the Sun takes approximately 25 days to complete one rotation. It was Edvin
Hubbel who discovered that the universe is expanding. The Qur’an says in Surah Dhariyat, Ch. 51, Verse No. 47, that…‘We have
created the expanding universe’ - The vastness of space. The Arabic word ‘Mohsiana’ refers to ‘vastness’ – ‘the
expanding universe.’ Regarding the topics on Astronomy, which Dr. William
Campbell touched, I will deal in the rebuttal, InshaAllah. In the field of
‘Water cycle, Dr. William Campbell pointed out, certain things. The Qur’an describes the water cycle in
great detail. And Dr. William Campbell mentioned 4 stages. In his book he
mentions 4 (a) and (b) - the last one he did not mention in the slide - I don’t
know why? It says... ‘The Driplinition’…‘The Water table.’ He missed out here -
Maybe because it was not mentioned in the Bible.
He said there is not a single Verse in the Qur’an,
which speaks about ‘evaporation.’ Qur’an
says in Surah Al-Tariq, Ch. No. 86, Verse No. 11, that….(Arabic)…. ‘By the
capacity of the heavens to return.’ And almost all the commentaries of the Qur’an - they said, that this Verse of
Surah Tariq, Ch. No. 86, Verse No. 11, refers to the capacity of the heavens to
return back rain - meaning ‘Evaporation.’ Dr. William Campbell who knows
Arabic, may say…‘Why did not Allah Subhanawa Taala specifically
mention….(Arabic) …. Meaning… ‘The capacity of the heavens to return back
rain.’ Why did not Allah mention specifically? Now we have came to know why did
not Allah do that, in His Divine wisdom. Because today we have came to know
that besides - the Ozonosphere… the layer above the earth - Besides returning
back rain, it even returns back other beneficial matter and energy of the
Earth, which is required by the human beings. It does not only return back rain
- Today we have come to know, it even returns back waves of Telecommunication,
of Television, of Radio, by which we can see TV, we can communicate, we can
hear the radio. And besides that, it even returns back the harmful rays of the
outer space, back on the other side, and absorbs. For example the sun light…
the ultraviolet rays of the Sun light is absorbed by the Ionosphere. If this
was not done, life on the Earth would have ceased to exist. So Allah
Subhanawataala is far superior and for more accurate, when He says…. (Arabic)….
By the capacity of the Heaven to return.’ And the remaining things as he
mentioned is there in the Qur’an -
You can refer to my Videocassette. The Qur’an
describes the ‘Water cycle’ in great detail. Regarding what he said about the Bible, he showed stage 1 and stage 3 in
the first slide, and in the second stage 1, 3, and then 2. ‘That the rain water
is taken up’… he says… ‘and then the rain water comes down on the Earth.’ This
is the philosophy of
Phasofmillitas, in 7th
century BC. He thought that the spray of the ocean was picked up by the wind,
and send to the interior as rain. There is no cloud mentioned there. In the
second quotation Dr. William Campbell gave - First is, according to him,
‘evaporation’ which we agree. We don’t mind having the concordance approach
with the Bible. ‘…Then rain falls
down, and then are the clouds formed.’ - That is not the complete water cycle.
Alhamdulillah, the Qur’an describes
the water cycle in great detail, in several places. How does the water rise,
evaporates, forms into clouds - the clouds join together, they stalk up, there
is thunder and lightning, water comes down, the clouds move into the interior,
they fall down as rain, and the evaporation of the water table and
Alhamdulillah in great detail. The Qur’an
speaks about the water cycle in great detail, in several places. In Surah Nur, Ch. No. 24, Verse No. 43, in Surah
Rum, Ch. No. 30, Verse 48, in Surah Al-Zumar, Ch. 39, Verse 21, in Surah
Muminun, Ch. 23, Verse 18, in Surah Rum Ch. No. 30, Verse No. 24, in Surah
Al-Hijr, Ch. 15, Verse No. 22, in Surah Araf Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 57, in Surah
Rad, Ch. No. 13, Verse No. 17, in Surah Furqan, Ch. 25, Verse No. 48 and 49, in
Surah Fatir, Ch. No. 35, Verse No. 9, in Surah Yasin, Ch. 36, Verse No. 34, in
Surah Jathiya, Ch. 45, Verse No. 5, in Surah Qaf, Ch. No. 50, Verse No. 9, in
Surah Al-Waqiah, Ch. No. 56, Verse No. 68 and 70, in several places, Surah
Al-Mulk,Ch. 67, Verse No. 30, the Glorious Qur’an
speaks about the ‘Water cycle’, in great detail. Dr. William Campbell spent
maximum time on Embryology’… about half his talk - quite a lot on Geology - and touched on other six topics - I’ve
noted down. In the field of Geology, we have come to know today - the Geologists,
they tell us, that the radius of the Earth is approximately 3750 miles, and the
deeper layers, they are hot and fluid, and cannot sustain life. And the
superficial part of the Earth’s crust, which we live on, it is very thin -
Hardly 1 to 30 miles. Some portions are thicker, but majority one to 30 miles.
And there are high possibility that this superficial layer, the Earth’s crust -
it will shake. It is due to the ‘Folding phenomenon’, which gives rise to
mountain ranges, which gives stability to this Earth. And Qur’an says in Surah Nabaa, Ch. No. 78, Verse No. 6 and 7…‘We have
made the Earth as an expanse…. (Arabic) ….and the mountains as stakes.’ The Qur’an does not say, mountains were
thrown up as stakes… mountain as stakes. Arabic word ‘Autaad’ means ‘stakes’… meaning ‘tent peg’. And today we have come
to know in the study of modern Geology, that mountain has got deep roots. This
was known in the second half of the 19th century. And the
superficial part that we see of the mountain, is a very small percentage. The
deeper part is within - Exactly like a stake how it is driven in the ground.
You can only see a small part on top…
the majority is down in the ground - or like a tip of the ice berg…you
can see the tip on the top and about 90% is beneath water. The Qur’an says in Surah Gashiya, Ch. 88,
Verse No. 19, and Surah Naziat, Ch. No. 79, Verse No. 32 ….. (Arabic) …. And We
have made the mountains standing firm on the Earth’ - Made the mountains
standing firm on the Earth. Today after modern Geology has advanced, and Dr.
William Campbell said that… ‘By the theory of Platectonics - It was propounded
in 1960, which gives rise to mountain ranges.’ The Geologists today, do say
that the mountains give stability to the Earth - Not all Geologists, but many
do say. I have not come across a single Geological book, and I challenge Dr.
William Campbell to produce a single Geological book - Not his personal
correspondence with the Geologist. That does not carry weight. His personal
correspondence with Dr. Keith Moore …. Documented proof. And if you read the
book ‘The Earth’ which is referred by almost all the universities, in the field
of Geology, one of its authors by the name of Dr Frank Press, who was the
advisor to the former president of USA, Jimmy Carter, and was the president of
the Academy of Science of USA. He writes in his book that…‘The mountains are
wedge shaped - It has deep roots within.
And he says that…‘The function of the mountain is to stabilize the earth.’ And
the Qur’an says in Surah Ambiya, Ch. No 21,
Verse No. 31, in Surah Luqman, Ch. No. 31 Verse No.10, as well as in Surah
Nahl, Ch. No. 16, Verse No. 15, that…‘We have made the mountains standing firm
on the Earth, lest it would shake with them and with you.’ The function of the
mountain in the Qur’an, is given to
prevent the Earth from shaking. Nowhere does the Qur’an say that the mountain prevents the earthquake. And Dr.
William Campbell said - He writes in his book, and even the talk, that… ‘You
find in the mountains regions, there are various earthquakes, and mountains
cause earthquake.’ Point to be noted - Nowhere does the Qur’an say that mountains prevent earthquake. The Arabic word for
‘earthquake’ as Dr. William Campbell knows Arabic, is ‘zilzaal’ or ‘zalzala’- But the words used in these three Verses I
quoted, it is ‘Tamida.’ ‘Tamida’
means ‘to shake’, ‘to ‘sway’, ‘to
swing.’ And Qur’an says in Surah
Luqman, Ch. 31, Verse No. 10, as well as Surah Nahl, Ch. No. 16 Verse No.
15…‘We have put on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it would shake with
you. It is ‘tamide bikum’…‘Shake with
you’, Indicating, if the mountains were not there, if you would have walked, if
you would have moved, even the earth would have moved with you - If you would
have swayed, even the earth would have swayed with you. And we know normally
when we walk on the Earth, the Earth does not shake, and the reason for this
is, according to Dr. Frank Press and Dr. Najjat who is from Saudi Arabia ,
and he wrote a full book on the Geological concepts in the Qur’an, answering almost every thing what Dr. William Campbell has
said - in detail. And Dr. William Campbell in his book, he writes that…‘If
mountains prevent the shaking of the earth, then how come you find earthquakes
in the mountains regions.’ I said, No where does the Qur’an say, mountains prevent earthquake. Earthquake is ‘zilzaal’ - and if you see the
definition in the Oxford
dictionary, it says… Earthquake is due to convulsion of the superficial crust
of the Earth, due to relief of compressed Siesmic waves, due to crack in the
rock, or due to volcanic reaction. The Qur’an
speaks about ‘zalzala’ in Surah Zalzaal , Ch.
99 - But here it speaks about ‘tamida
bikum’- ‘to prevent the earth from shaking with you.’ And in reply to the
statement…‘That if mountains prevent earthquakes, how come you find earthquakes
in mountainous regions ?’ The reply is, that - If I say that medical doctors,
they prevent the sickness and disease in a human being, and if someone
argues…‘If doctors prevent the sickness and diseases in a human being, how come
you find more sick people in the hospitals, where there are more doctors than
at home - where there are no doctors.’ In the field of Oceanology, the Glorious
Qur’an says, in Surah Furqan, Ch. No.
25, Verse No. 53, that…‘It is Allah who has let free two bodies of following
water - One sweet and palatable, the other salt and bitter. Though they meet,
they do not mix. Between them there is a barrier which is forbidden to be
trespassed. Qur’an says in Surah
Rahman, Ch. 55 Verse No. 19 and 20……. (Arabic) ……‘It is Allah who has let free
two bodies of flowing water. Though they meet, they do not mix. Between them
there is barrier, which is forbidden to be trespassed.’ Previously the
commentators of the Qur’an
wondered…‘What does the Qur’an mean? We
know about sweet and salt water - But between them there is a barrier - though
they meet do not mix. Today after advancement of Oceanology, we have come to
know, that whenever one type of water flows into the other type of water, it
looses its constituents, and gets homogenized into the water it flows. There is
a slanting homogenizing area, which the Qur’an
refers to as ‘Barzak’ ‘unseen barrier’ And this has been agreed
upon by several Scientists, even of America , by the name of Dr. Hay -
he is an Oceanologist. And Dr. William Campbell writes in his book that…‘It is
an observable phenomena. The fisherman of that time knew there were two types
of water… salt and sweet So Prophet Mohammed during an expedition to Syria , he may
have gone in the sea, or he might have spoken to these fishermen.’ Sweet and
salt water is an observable phenomenon, I agree - But people did not know that
there was an unseen barrier, until recently. The Scientific point to be noted
here is the ‘Barzak’ - not the sweet and the salt water. In the field of
Embryology, Dr. William Campbell spent approximately half of his talk on that.
Time will not permit me to reply to every small thing which are illogical. I’ll
just give a brief reply, which will be satisfactory InshaAllah. And for more
details, you can refer to my Video cassette – ‘Qur’an and Modern Science’, and my other cassettes on… ‘Qur’an and Medical Science.’ There were
a group of Arabs who collected the data dealing in the Qur’an about ‘Embryology’ and the Hadith dealing with Embryology.
And they presented it to Professor Keith Moore, who was the chairman and the
head of the department of ‘Anatomy’, in the university
of Toronto , in Canada - And at
present he is one of the leading scientist in the field of ‘Embryology.’ After
reading the various translations of the Qur’an,
he was asked to comment, and he said… ‘Most of the Verses of the Qur’an and the Hadith, are in perfect
conformity with Modern Embryology. But there are a few Verses which I cannot
say that they are right neither can I say that they are wrong, because I myself
don’t know about it. And two such Verses were the first two Verses of the Qur’an to be revealed, from Surah Iqra
or Surah Alaq , Ch. 96 Verses No. 1 and 2 which says…(Arabic)… ‘Read, recite or
proclaim in the name of thy Lord, Who created, Who created the human beings
from something which clings - a leech like substance.
Regarding
Dr. William Campbell’s statement that…‘To analyse the meaning of a word, we
have to see what was the meaning at that time when it was revealed’-At that
time when the book was written. And he rightly said that to analyze the
meaning, we have to analyze the meaning at the time it was revealed, and to the
people whom it was meant for. As far as this statement of his is concerned,
regarding the Bible, I do agree with
it totally - Because the Bible was
only meant for the children of Israel, for that time. It is mentioned in the
Gospel of Mathew, Ch. No. 10, Verse No. 5 and 6, Jesus Christ peace be upon him
tells his disciples… ‘Go ye not in the way of the Gentiles.’ Who are the
Gentiles? The Non-Jews, the Hindus, the Muslims
‘But rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.’ Jesus Christ
peace be upon him said in the Gospel of Mathew, Ch. No. 15, Verse No. 24… ‘I am not sent, but to the lost sheep of the
house of Israel.’ So Jesus Christ and the Bible,
were only meant for the children of Isreal. Since it was meant for them, to
analyze the Bible, you have to use
the meaning of the word, which was utilized at that time.
But the Qur’an
was not meant only for the Arabs of that time - Qur’an is not meant only for the Muslims. The Qur’an is meant for the whole of humanity, and it is meant to be
for eternity.
Qur’an says in Surah Ibrahim, Ch. 14, Verse. 52,
in Surah Baqarah Ch. No. 2, Verse 185, and Surah Zumar Ch. 39, Verses. 41, that
the Qur’an is meant for the whole of
human kind. And Prophet Mohammed, may peace be upon him, was not sent only for
the Muslims or the Arabs. Allah says in the Qur’an
in Surah Ambiya Ch. No. 21, Verse No. 107------(Arabic)----That We have send
thee as a mercy, as a guidance, to the whole of humankind.’ So as far as the Qur’an is concerned, you cannot limit the meaning only for that
time, because it is meant for eternity.
So one
of the meaning of ‘Alaqa’… is ‘leech
like substance’ or ‘something which clings.’ So professor Keith Moore said… ‘I
did not know whether the early stage of the embryo looks like a leech’ And he
went into his laboratory, and he
analyzed the early stage of an embryo, under a microscope and compared it with
the photograph of a leech, and he was astonished at the striking resemblance.
This is a photograph of a leech, and human embryo. What Dr. William Campbell
showed you is the other perspective of it. If I show this book - it looks like
a rectangle - If I show you like that, it is a different perspective. That
diagram is given in the book - The diagram which you saw on the slide is even
there - And I’ll deal with it InshaAllah. Professor Keith Moore, after about 80
questions were asked to him, he said… ‘If you would have asked me these 80
questions, 30 years ago, I would not be
able to answer more than 50 percent - Because embryology has developed recently
in the past 30 years.’ He said this in the eighties. Now, do we believe Dr.
Keith Moore whose statement is available outside in the foyer - his
videocassette is available… ‘This is the truth’...’Anna-ul-Haq’... recorded
statement. So will you believe Dr. William Campbell’s personal conversation
with Professor Keith Moore, or the one mentioned in this book, with Islamic
edition as well as the photograph that I had shown to you? And in the
videocassette available outside you can see it - He makes those statements. So
you have to choose which is more logical - Personal discussion with Dr. William
Campbell or his statement on Video. Like how Dr. William Campbell showed my
video - 100 percent proof what I said… ‘Moon is reflected light’ - I’ll come to
it later on. And whatever additional information he got from Qur’an and Hadith, it was incorporated
later into this book…‘The Developing Human’ - the 3rd edition nd
this book got an award for the best medical book written by a single author in
that year. This is the Islamic edition that was put forward by Shaikh Abdul
Majeed Al-Jindani and certified by Keith Moore himself. The Qur’an says in Surah Muminun, Ch. 23
Verse No. 13, and Surah Haj Ch. 22, Verse No. 5, and no less than 11 different
places in the Qur’an, that the human
beings have been made from a ‘nutfaa’
‘minute quantity of liquid’…like a trickle that is remaining in the cup.
‘Nutfa’ in Arabic… a very small quantity. Today we have come to know, that in
one seminal emission, in which there are several millions of sperms, only one
is required to fertilize the ovum - ‘The Qur’an
refers as ‘nutfa.’ Qur’an says in
Surah Sajda Ch. 32 Verse no. 8…‘We have created the human beings from ‘Sulalah’ - That means the best part of a
whole. The one sperm which fertilizes the ova out of the millions of sperms,
the Qur’an refers to as ‘Sulalah’…‘best part of the whole.’ And Qur’an says in Surah Insan, Ch. 76 Verse
No. 2…‘We have created the human beings from ‘nutfatunamshaj’…a minute quantity of mingled fluid’ - referring to
the sperm as well as the ovum - Both are required for the fertilization. The Qur’an describes the various
embryological stages in great detail, of which the slides were shown to you -
Dr. William Campbell, he helped me to complete this topic. It is mentioned in
Surah Muminun Ch. 23, Verses No. 12 to 14 - The translation is that…‘We have
created the human beings from a ‘nutfa.’
– ‘A minute quantity of liquid.’ Then placed it in ‘cararemakeen’ - a place of security. Then We made it into an ‘Alaqa’ - a leech like substance -
something which clings - a congealed clot of blood. Then We made that ‘Alaqa’ into a ‘Mutga’ a ‘chewed like lump.’ Then We made the ‘Mutga’ into ‘Izama’…bones.
Then clothed the bones with ‘leham’… flesh. Then We made it a new
creature. Blessed be Allah Who is the best to create. These 3 Verses of the Qur’an, speak about the various
embryological stages in great detail. First the nutfa placed in a place of security - Made into an ‘Alaqa’,
Alaqa has got 3 meanings - One
is ‘something’ which clings’, and we know that in the initial stages, the
embryo clings to the uterine wall and continues clinging till the end. Point
No.2, that it also means a leech like substance, and as I discussed earlier,
the embryo in the initial stages, does look like a leech. Besides looking like
a leech - it also behaves like a leech - It receives its blood supply from the
mother’ like a bloodsucker. And the 3rd meaning which Dr. William
Campbell objected to - that is the right meaning… ‘the congealed clot of
blood’- And that is why Qur’an has a
scientific error. And I do agree with him that Dr. William Campbell did not
agree. He said how can it mean a congealed clot of blood, because if this is
the case, then the Qur’an is
wrong. am sorry to say Qur’an is not wrong - Dr. William
Campbell with due respect to him… He is wrong. Because today…today…after advancement
of embryology, even Dr. Keith Moore - He says that… ‘In the initial stages, the
embryo, besides looking like a leech, also looks like a congealed clot of
blood, because in the initial stages, of the stage of ‘Alaqa’, 3 to 4 weeks, the blood is clotted within closed vessels.
And Dr. William Campbell made it easy for me - He showed you a slide. It will
be difficult for you to see - But this is the slide he showed you. This is
exactly what Professor Keith Moore said… ‘Looks like a clot, in which the blood
is clotted within closed vessels And during the 3rd week of the
embryo, the blood circulation does not take place - it starts later on -
Therefore it assumes the appearance of a clot. And if you observe the
conspectus - that is after abortion takes place, you can see, it look like a
clot. Only one line answer is sufficient to answer all the allegations of Dr.
William Campbell is that, the stages of the Qur’an
while it describes the embryological stages, is only based on appearance… Appearance. First is the appearance of the ‘Alaqa’ , a ‘leech like substance’ as
well as a clot of blood.’ And Dr. William Campbell rightly said that some
ladies come and ask… ‘Please remove the clot’ - It does look like a clot And
the stages are based on appearance. It is created from something, which appears
like a clot, which appears like a leech, and is also something which clings.
Then the Qur’an says… ‘We made the ‘Alaqa’ into ‘Mutga’ – a chewed like lump.’
Professor Keith Moore took plastic seal, and bit between his teeth to
make it look like a ‘Mutga’- The
teeth marks resembled the ‘somites.’ Dr.
William Campbell said… ‘When the ‘Alaqa’
becomes a ‘Mutga’ the clinging is yet
there - It is there till 8 and a half months- So… the Qur’an is wrong.’ I told you in the beginning, the Qur’an is describing the appearance.
‘The leech like’ appearance and the ‘clot like’ appearance, is changed to the
‘chewed’ like appearance. It yet continues to cling till the end - There is no
problem. But the stages are divided on appearance - Not on the function. Later
on the Qur’an says… ‘We made the ‘Mutga’ into ‘Izama’…bones - Then clothed the bones with flesh.’ Dr. William
Campbell said, and I do agree with him, that… ‘The precursors of the muscles
and the cartilagees… that is the bones, they form together - I agree with that.
Today embryology tells us that the primordia of the muscles and the bones -
they form together between the 25th and the 40th day,
which the Qur`an refers to as the
stage of ‘mudga.’ But they are not developed…
they are not developed. Later on, at the end of the seventh week, the
embryo takes form of human appearance - then the bones are formed. Today modern
embryology says the bones are formed after the 42nd day, and it
gives an appearance of a skeletal thing. Even at this stage when the bones are
formed, the muscles are not formed. Later on, after the 7th week and
the starting of 8th week, are the muscles formed. So Qur’an is perfect in describing first ‘Alaqa’, then ‘Mutga’, then ‘Izama’,
then clothed with flesh, and when they form - the description is perfect. As
Professor Keith Moore said that… ‘The stages - that how it is described in
modern embryology… stage 1,2,3,4,5, is so confusing, The Qur’anic stage on embryology describing on the base of appearance,
and the shape, is far more superior.’ Alhamdulillah. Therefore he said…
therefore he said that… ‘I have no objection in accepting that Prophet Muhammed
is the messenger of God and that this Glorious Qur’an has to be a Divine Revelation, from Almighty God.’ It is mentioned
in Surah Nisa , Ch. No. 4, Verse No. 56, It speaks
about ‘Pain.’ Previously the doctors, they thought that the brain was only
responsible for feeling of ‘pain.’ Today we have come to know besides the
brain, there are certain receptors in the skin, which are responsible for
feeling of the pain, which we call as the ‘pain receptors.’ Qur’an
says in such Surah Nisa Ch. 4, Verse 56, that… ‘As to those who reject Our
signs, We shall cast them into the hell fire, and as often as their skins are
roasted, We shall give them fresh skin, so that they shall feel the pain.
Indicating that there is something in the skin, which is responsible for feeling of pain, which the Qur’an refers to as ‘pain
receptors.’ Professor Thagada Tagada
Shaun, who is the head of the department of Anatomy, in Chang Mai University in
Thailand, - Only on the basis of this one Verse, he proclaimed the Shahada, in the 8th Medical
conference in Riyadh, and said …(Arabic)…. That… ‘There is no God but Allah,
and that Prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him, is the Messenger of Allah. I
started my talk by quoting the Verse from the Glorious Qur’an from Surah… from Surah Fussilat, Ch. 41, Verse 53, which
says…(Arabic) ‘That soon We shall show them Our signs in the farthest reaches
of the horizons, and into their souls, until it is clear to them, that this is
the truth.’ This one Verse was
sufficient to prove to Dr. Thagada,
Thagada Shaun, that Qur’an is
a Divine Revelation. Some may require 10 signs,
some may require 100. Some, even
after a 1000 signs are given, they will not accept the truth. Qur’an calls such people, as in Surah
Baqarah Ch. 2, Verse 18…(Arabic)… ‘The deaf, the dumb, the blind, they will not
return to the true path.’ The Bible
says the same thing in Gospel of Mathew, Ch. No. 13, Verse No. 13… ‘Seeing they
see not, hearing they hear not, neither will they understand.’ nd regarding the
other parts of ‘Embryology’, I will deal in my rebuttal InshaAllah, if time
permits - I have to do justice to the other part also… regarding ‘Bible in the light of science.’ At the
outset let me tell you, that Qur’an
says in Surah Rad, Ch. 13, Verse. 38, that… ‘We have given several
Revelations.’ y name only 4 are
mentioned - The Torah, the Zaboor, the Injeel and the Qur’an.
The Torah is the ‘Wahi’ the ‘Revelation’, which was given to Prophet Moses, peace be
upon him. The Zaboor is the ‘Wahi’,
which was given to David, peace be upon him. The Injeel is the ‘Wahi’, the ‘Revelation’ which was given to Jesus,
peace be upon him. And Qur’an is the
last and final Revelation, which was given to the last and final Messenger
Prophet Mohammed, peace be upon him. Let
me make it very clear to every one, that this Bible which the Christians believe to be the word of God, is not
the ‘Injeel’ which we Muslims believe,
was revealed to Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him. This Bible according to us, it may contain the words of God - But it
also contains words of Prophets, words of historians, it contains absurdities,
obscenity, as well as innumerable scientific errors. If there are scientific
points mentioned in the Bible - there
are possibilities - why not? It may be
part of the word of God, in the Bible.
But what about the scientific errors ? - What about the unscientific portions?
- Can you attribute this to God ? want
to make it very clear to my Christian brothers and sisters - The purpose of my
presentation on ‘Bible and science’
is not to hurt any Christian’s feeling. If while presenting, if I hurt your
feelings, I do apologize in advance. The purpose is only to point out, that a
God’s Revelation cannot contain scientific errors. As Jesus Christ, peace be
upon him said… ‘Search ye the truth, and
the truth shall free you.’ We have the Old Testament, we have the New Testament
- Now you should follow the Last and
Final Testament, which is the Glorious Qur’an.
As far as Dr. William Campbell is concerned, I can be more liberal with him -
Because he has written a book ‘The Qur’an
and the Bible in the light of history
and science.’ He has given a presentation, and he is a medical doctor - I don’t
have to be very formal with him. As far as the other Christian brothers and
sisters are concerned, I apologize if I hurt you feelings during the
presentation. Let us analyse what the Bible says about modern science - First
we deal with Astronomy., The Bible
speaks about the creation of the universe. In the beginning, 1st
Book, Book of Genesis, 1st Ch. , it is mentioned - It says…
‘Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, in six days and talks about a
evening and a morning, referring to a 24 - hour day. Today scientists tell us,
that the universe cannot be created in a 24 hour period of six days. Qur’an too speaks about six ‘ayyams’. The Arabic word singular is ‘yaum’ plural is ‘ayyam’. It can either mean a day of 24 hours, or it is a very long
period, an ‘yaum’, an epoch.
Scientists say we have no objection in agreeing that the universe - it could
have been created in 6 very long periods. Point No.2 - Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was
created on the first day.’ enesis, Ch. , 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause
of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the
4th day - later than the light which came into existence on the
first day? - It is unscientific. Further, the, Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on
the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth
? The day depends upon the rotation of
the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day? Point No..4, Genesis , Ch.
No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says…‘The
Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ Today science tells us…
‘Earth is part of the parent body… the sun.’ It cannot come into existence
before the sun – It is unscientific. Point No. 5, the Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No. 11 to 13…‘The
vegetation, the herbs the shrubs, the trees - they were created on the 3rd
day And the Sun, Genesis, Ch. No. 1, Verses. 14 to 19, was created on the 4th
day.How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can
they survive without sunlight ? Point No.6, that the Bible says in Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses No.16, that…‘God created two
lights the greater light, the Sun to rule the day, and the lesser light the
Moon, to rule the night. The actual translation, if you go to the Hebrew text,
it is ‘lamps’…‘Lamps having lights of its own.’ And that you will come to know
better, if you read both the Verses – Genesis ,
Ch. No.1,
Verse. 16, as well as 17. Verse No.17 says…‘And Almighty God placed them in the
firmament, to give light to the earth…
To give light to the earth.’ Indicating, that Sun and the Moon has its
own light - which is in contradiction with established scientific knowledge
that we have. There are certain people who try and reconciliate, and say that
the six days mentioned in the Bible,
it actually refers to epocs - like the Qur’an
long periods - not six, 24 hour day. It is illogical - you read in the Bible, evening, morning - It clearly
states 24 hours, it indicates. But even if I use the concordance approach - no
problem. I agree with your illogical argument - Yet they will only be able to
solve the 1st scientific error of 6 days creation, and second, of
first day ‘light’ and 3rd day ‘earth.’ The remaining four, yet they
cannot solve. Some further say that… ‘If it is a 24-hour period, why cannot the
vegetables survive for one 24 hour day without sunlight?’ I say ‘Fine - If you
say that the vegetables were created before the sun, and can survive for one
24-hour day, I have got no objection. But you cannot say the days mentioned are
24 hours as well as epochs - You cannot have the cake and eat it, both. If you
say it is long period, you solve Point No.1 and 3, the remaining 4 are yet
there. If you say the days are 24 hours day, you solve only Point No.5 - the
remaining 5 are yet there - It becomes unscientific. I leave it to Dr. William
Campbell, whether he wants to say… ‘It is long period’, and say that there are
only 4 scientific errors - or say… ‘It is a 24 hour day’, and say there is only
5 scientific errors in the creation of the universe. Regarding the concept of
Earth, there are various Scientists who have described… ‘How will the world
end.’ Hypothesis - Some may be right, some may be wrong. But either the world
will perish or the world will live forever. Both cannot take place
simultaneously – It is unscientific. But this is exactly what the Bible says. It is mentioned in the Bible, in the book of Hebrews, Ch. No.1
Verses No.10 and 11, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.102, Verse No.25 and 26,
that…‘Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, and they will perish.’
Exactly opposite is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastics, Ch. No.1, Verse
No.4, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.78, Verse No.69, that… ‘The earth will
abide forever.’ I leave it to Dr. William Campbell to choose which of the two
Verses are unscientific - the first pair or the second pair. One has to be
unscientific - Both cannot take place. The world cannot abide forever as well
as perish – It is unscientific. Regarding ‘the Heavens’, the Bible says in Job, Ch. 26, Verse 11,
that…‘The pillars of the Heaven will tremble.’ Qur’an says in Surah Luqman, Ch. 31, Verse No.10, that…‘The Heavens
are without any pillars - Don`t you see? Don’t you see the Heavens are without
any pillars? - Bible says heaven have got pillars. Not only do the Heavens have
got pillars - Bible says in the first
book of Samuel, Ch. No.2 Verses No.8, as well as the book of Job Ch. No.9,
Verse No.6, and the book of Psalms Ch. No.75, Verse No.3, that… ‘Even the earth
have got pillars.’ In the field of ‘Diet and Nutrition’ lets analyse, what does
the Bible say. The Bible says in the book of Genesis, Ch.
No.1, Verse No.29, that… ‘God has given you all the herbs bearing seeds, the
trees bearing fruits - those that bear seed, as meat for you.’ New
International Version says… ‘The seed bearing plants, and the trees bearing
fruits bearing seeds are food for you, all of them.’ Today, even a layman knows
that there are several poisonous plants like wild berries, stritchi, datura,
plants containing alkaloid, polyander, bacaipoid - that which if you ingest, if
you eat there are high possibilities you may die. How come the Creator of the
universe and the human beings, does not know, that if you have these plants,
you will die. I hope Dr. William Campbell does not give these vegetarian diet
to his patients. The Bible has a
scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel
of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18
- It says that… ‘There will be signs for
true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new
tongues, they shall take up serpents -
And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place
their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’ This is a scientific test - In
scientific terminology, it is known as the ‘confirmatory test’ for a true
Christian believer. In the past 10 years of my life, I have personally
interacted with thousands of Christians, including missionaries - I have not
come across a single Christian, who has passed this confirmatory test of the Bible. I have not come across a single
Christian who took poison - I have not come across any who took poison, and who
has not died. And in scientific terminology, this is also called as the
‘falsification test’ That means if a false person tries and does this test…
takes poison, he will die. And a false person will not dare attempt this test -
If you are not a true Christian believer, you will not dare attempt this test.
Because you try and attempt the falsification test, you will fail. So a person
who is not a true Christian believer, will never attempt this test. I have read
the book ‘The Qur’an and the Bible in the light of history and
science’ written by Dr. William Campbell. And I assume - that he is a true
Christian believer, and at least I would like him to confirm to me about the
falsification test. Please be rest assured…
Please be rest assured, I will
not ask Dr. William Campbell to have deadly poison - Because I don’t want to
jeopardize the debate. What I’ll do - I will only ask him to speak in foreign
tongues… In new languages. And as many
of you may be aware that India
is a land, which has more than 1000 languages and dialects. Only thing I
request him is, to say these 3 words… ‘One hundred rupees’, in the 17 official
languages. There are only 17 official languages in India and to make it easier for Dr.
William Campbell, I have got a ‘One hundred-rupee note.’ And this has all the
17 languages mentioned here. Besides English and Hindi, I will help him. I give him a beginning –‘Ek sav rupaiya, In Hindi.
The
remaining 15 languages are here - I request him to read. I know the test says…
‘They will speak foreign languages on their own, without the help of reading’ -
but I want to make the test easier, I want to see someone passing the test -
I’ve not seen any one. So if he cannot say it on his own, or from his memory,
at least read it. I don’t mind I’ll accept it. And I would request the
chairperson to give it to Dr. William Campbell. He has his rebuttal - 15
languages, ‘Ek sav rupaiya’… 3 words only. What does the Bible say regarding ‘Hydrology’? Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.9, Verse No.13 to 17, that… ‘After
God, at the time of Noah submerged the world by flood, and after the flood’
subsided, He said… ‘I put up a rainbow in the sky as a promise to the humankind
never to submerge the world again, by water. To the unscientific person it may
be quite good… ‘Oh rainbow is a sign of
Almighty God, never to submerge the world by flood again.’ But today we know
very well, that rainbow is due to the refraction of sunlight, with rain or
mist. Surely there must have been thousands of rainbows before the time of
Noah, peace be upon him. To say it was not there before Noah’s time you have to
assume that the law of refraction did not exist - which is unscientific.’ In
the field of medicine, the Bible says
in the book of Leveticus, Ch. No.14, Verse No.49 to 53 - it gives a novel way
for disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy… disinfecting a house from plague of leprosy.
It says that… ‘Take two birds, kill one bird, take wood, scale it - and the
other living bird, dip it in water… and under running water - later on sprinkle
the house 7 times with it.
Sprinkle the house with
blood to disinfect against plague of leprosy? You know blood is a good media of
germs, bacteria, as well as toxin - I hope Dr. William Campbell does not use
this method of disinfecting the OT, the operation theatre. It is mentioned in
the book of Leveticus , Ch. No.12, Verse No.1 to 5, and we
know medically, that after a mother gives birth to a child, the post-partal
period, it is unhygienic. To say it is ‘unclean’, Religiously - I have got no
objection. But Leviticus , Ch. No.12 Verse No.1 to 5, says
that… ‘After a woman gives birth to a male child, she will be unclean for 7
days, and the period of uncleanliness will continue for 33 days more. It she
give birth to a female child, she will be unclean for two weeks, and the period
of uncleanliness will continue for 66 days. In short, if a woman gives birth to
a male child… ‘a son’, she is unclean
for 40 days. If she gives birth to a female child… ‘a daughter’, she is unclean
for 80 days. I would like Dr. William Campbell to explain to me scientifically,
how come a woman remains unclean for double the period, if she gives birth to a
female child, as compared to a male child. The Bible also has a very good test for adultery - How to come to know
a woman has committed adultery, in the book of Numbers, Ch. no.5 Verse
No..11 to 31. I’ll just say in brief. It says that… ‘The priest should take
holy water in a vessel, take dust from
the floor, and put it into the vessel - And that is the bitter water ‘And after
cursing it, give it to the woman And if the woman has committed adultery, after
she drinks it, the curse will enter her body, the stomach will swell, the thigh
will rot, and she shall be cursed by the people. If the woman has not committed
adultery, she will remain clean and she will bear the seed. A novel method of
identifying whether a woman has committed adultery or not. You know today in
the world, there are thousands of cases pending in different parts of the
world, in different courts of law - only on the assumption that someone has
alleged that a woman has committed adultery. I had read in the newspapers, and
I came to know from the media, that the President of this great country Mr. Bill
Clinton, he was involved in a sex scandal about 2 years back. I wonder, that
why did not the American court use this ‘bitter water test’ for adultery? He
would have gone scot-free immediately. Why did not the Christian missionaries
of this great country, specially those who are in the medical field like my
respected Dr. William Campbell, use this bitter water test to bail out their
President, immediately. ‘Mathematics’ is a branch, which is closely associated
with science, with which you can solve problems, etc. There are thousands of
contradictions in the Bible -
hundreds deal with mathematics, and I’ll first touch on few of them. It is
mentioned in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.1, and Nehemiah, Ch. No.7, Verse No.6,
the context that… ‘When the people returned from exile, from Babylon ,
when king Nebucheldeser of Babylon, when he released the men from Israel , they
came back from captivity’ - and the list of the people are given. The list is
given in Ezra, Ch. No.2, Verse No.2 to 63, and Nehemiah Ch. No.7, Verse No.7 up
to 65; the list is given with the names as well as number of people released.
In these 60 Verses there are no less than 18 times - the name is exactly the
same but the number is different. There are no less than 18 contradictions in
less than 60 Verses, of these two Chapters. This is the list - I don’t have
time to run through the list - There are no less than 18 different
contradictions in less than 60 Verses. Further it is mentioned in Ezra, Ch.
No.2 Verse No.64 that… ‘The total congregation, if you add up… if you add up,
it comes to 42,360.’ And if you read in Nehemiah ,
Ch. No.7, Verse
No.66, there also the total is the same 42,360. But if you add up all these
verses - which I had to do my homework - this is the list of Ezra… this is the
list of Nehemiah. Ezra Ch.
No 2, Nehemiah Ch. No 7 - If
you add up - I had to do my homework…if you add up, Ezra Ch. No. 2 - It does
not come to 42,360 - it comes to 29,818. And if you add up Nehemiah , Ch.
No. 7, even then it does not come to 42,360 - It comes to 31,089. The author of
the Bible, presumed to be ‘Almighty
God’, does not know simple addition. If you give this problem, even to a person
who has passed elementary school, he will be able to get the right answer. If
you add up all the 60 Verses, it is so easy. Almighty God did not know adding –
Nauzubillah… if we presume, that this
is the word of God. Further if we read, in Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it
says…There were 200 singing men and women - Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No.
67…‘There were 245 singing men and women.’ Were they 200 - or were they 245
singing men and women? Context is the same - A mathematical contradiction. It
is mentioned in the 2nd Kings ,
Ch. No 24,
Verse No 8, that…‘Jehoiachin was 18 years old, when he began to reign Jerusalem , and he reigned
for 3 months and 10 days. 2nd Chronicles ,
Ch. No 36,
Verse No 9, says that…‘Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign and he
reigned for 3 months, 10 days. Was Jehoiachin 18 years when he began to reign,
or was he 8 years old? Did he reign for 3 months, or did he reign for 3 months
10 days? Further it is mentioned in the 1st Kings , Ch.
No 7, Verse No 26, that…‘In Solomon’s temple, in his molten sea, he had 2000
baths. In 2nd Chronicles ,
Ch. No 4, Verse
No 5, he had 3000 baths. Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths? –
That, I leave it upon Dr. William Campbell to decide which is correct. There is
a clear-cut mathematical contradiction. Further more it is mentioned in the
First Kings, Ch. No. 15, Verse No. 33, that… ‘Basha, he died in the 26th
year of reign of Asa.’ And 2nd Chronicles Ch. No 16, Verse No 1, says
that…‘Basha invaded Judah
in the 36th years of the reign of Asa.’ How can Basha invade 10
years after his death? - It is
unscientific.
To make it easier for Dr.
William Campbell, to answer to the points I have raised, I will just mention it
in brief -The points that I mentioned.
The first point was that
-‘The creation of the Earth and the Heaven - the universe was in six, 24-hour
days.
Point No. 2. Light was
then before the source of light –
Point No. 3. Three - Day came into existence before creation of
Earth.
Point No. 4 - Earth came
into existence before Sun.
Point No. 5 - Vegetation
came into existence, before sunlight
Point No.
6 - Light of the Moon is
its own light. Point No.
7 - The earth - Will it
perish or will it abide forever?
Point No. 8 - The earth
has got pillars.
Point No. 9 - The heavens
have got pillars.
Point No. 10 - God said…
‘You can have all plants and all vegetation, including the poisonous plants?’
Point No. 11 - The
scientific test the falsification test, of Mark , Ch.
No. 16, Verse No. 17 and 18.
Point No. 12 - A woman
remains unclean for double the period, if she gives birth to a daughter, as
compared to a son.
Point No. 13 - Using
blood to disinfect the house, against plague of leprosy.
Point No. 14 – How do you
find out the bitter water test for adultery?
Point No. 15 - Eighteen
different contradictions in less than 60 Verses of Ezra, Ch. 2, and Nehemiah , Ch.
7. I did not count them as 18 different - I counted them only as one.
Point No. 16 - The total
is different is both the chapters.
Point No. 17 - Are there
200 singing men and women, or are there 245 singing men and women?
Point No. 18 - Was
Jehoiachin 18 years old, or was he 8 years old when he began to reign?
Point No. 19 - Did he
reign for 3 months, or 3 months 10 days.
Point No. 20 - Did
Solomon had 3000 baths, or 2000 baths?
Point No. 21 - Is that
Basha, how could he invade Judah ,
10 years after his death?
Point No. 22 is -
Almighty God - He said, I put up a rainbow in the sky, as a promise to the
human kind, never to submerge the world again by water.
I have listed only 22,
out of the hundreds available unscientific points in the Bible… scientific errors - And I request Dr. William Campbell to
answer them. And irrespective whether he uses the ‘concordance approach’ or the
‘conflict approach’… as long as he is logical, he will never be able to prove
scientifically, all these 22 aspects I have told him. We agree in Jesus Christ
peace be upon him - to him was revealed the Injeel.
This is not the Injeel - It may contain part of God - But the other
unscientific portion is not the word of God. I would like to end my talk by
giving the quotation of the Glorious Qur’an,
from Surah Baqarah, Ch. No. 2, Verse 79 …. (Arabic)…. ‘Woe to those who write
the book with their own hands, and then say this is from Allah, to traffic with
it for a miserable price. Woe to those for what they write, woe to those for
what they earn.’ Wa Aakim Dawana Anil
Hamdulillahi Rabbil Aalameen .
(Dr. Mohammed) I would request
the audience to bear with us, and maintain due decorum, for the continuation of
this dialogue. Now I call upon Dr. William Campbell to present his response, to
Dr. Zakir Naik.
(Dr. William Campbell) Well Dr. Naik has brought up
some real problems - And there are also these problems that he has said. I do
not deny them, and I don’t have good answers for them. But I will tell
about… (Clapping)… We are going to
make a mathematical study of prophesies - called the theory of probabilities.
Estimate … and we will estimate the possibility, that these prophesies could be
fulfilled by chance.
(Dr. Mohammed) I now call upon
Dr. Zakir Naik, to present his response to Dr. William Campbell.
(Dr. Zakir) Dr. William Campbell only
touched on 2, out of the 22 points I made - only 2. You can only solve 2
problems. The ‘six day creation problem’, and ‘first day light came’, and ‘the
third day, Earth’ - But the remaining four problems, yet is there. So Dr.
William Campbell chose to say ‘Days are long period’- and out of 6, he solved 2
scientific errors. The remaining 4 of ‘the creation of the universe’ , he does agree to it -That is
good. The King James Version, as well as the New International Version, which
Dr. William Campbell refers to… ‘Drink deadly poison’ – ‘Not eat’… ‘Drink.’ Dr.
William Campbell does not know there are Indians out here - Surely many may
know Gujarati, Marathi - Even I know. If I ask you… ‘Shu che….?’ Dr. William Campbell did not reply to my 20 points, and
he started speaking about ‘Prophesy.’ What has ‘Prophesy’ to do with ‘Science
in the Bible.’ If ‘Prophesy’ is the
test - But even if there is one unfulfilled prophesy, the whole Bible is disproved to the word of God. I
can give you a list of unfulfilled prophecies - According to your theory of…
theory of probability, Bible is not
the word of God. Irrespective whether you use the ‘conflict approach’ or the
‘concordance approach’ , if your logical, you will not be able to take out a
single Verse of the Qur’an, which is
contradicting - Neither a single Verse which is against the established
science. If Dr. William Campbell cannot understand the Qur’an - That does not mean, Qur’an
is wrong. Bible says in Job , Ch.
No. 10, Verse No. 9 and 10 that… ‘We have made the human beings from clay, like
poured out milk and curdled cheese.’ ‘Poured out milk and curdled cheese’… is
the exact plagerization from Hypocrites.
(Q) Yes, I would like
to pose this question, or rather this test to Dr. William Campbell. Why don’t
you attempt the falsification test of the Bible,
given in the book of Mark , Ch. 16, Verses 17 and 18, and prove
to the audience here right now, that you are a true Christian believer?
(Q) My question is to Dr.
Zakir Naik. The Christians explain the concept of ‘trinity’ scientifically, by
giving the example of water, which can be in there states - solid , liquid and
gas, in the form of ice, water and vapour. Similarly one God, is a triune God -
Father , Son and Holy ghost. Is this explanation scientifically correct?
(Dr. Zakir) The word ‘trinity’
is not there in the Bible, but it is
there is the Qur’an.
Quran 4:171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
4:172. Christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
4:173. But to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards,- and more, out of His bounty: But those who are disdainful and arrogant, He will punish with a grievous penalty; Nor will they find, besides Allah, any to protect or help them.
Water in 3 different states is an example of 1 in 3 NOT 3 in 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk&feature=youtu.be
Quran 4:171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
4:172. Christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah.: those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
4:173. But to those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, He will give their (due) rewards,- and more, out of His bounty: But those who are disdainful and arrogant, He will punish with a grievous penalty; Nor will they find, besides Allah, any to protect or help them.
Water in 3 different states is an example of 1 in 3 NOT 3 in 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk&feature=youtu.be
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