Trinity Concept - in the bible?

VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THE TRINITARIAN DOCTRINE AND/OR THE DIVINITY OF JESUS

Jesus as Servant and Prophet of ALLAH ALLMIGHTY THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH

Ø Matthew 21:11 The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.”

Ø Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.

Ø Luke 24:19 19 “What things?” he asked.“About Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “He was a prophet, powerful in word and deed before God and all the people.

Ø John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.  

Ø Jesus as a servant of God (Matthew 12:18) 

Ø Jesus referred himself as Servant: Matthew 10:24, 24:45, 12:18 John 13:16

Ø JESUS AS GOD'S SERVANT...Act 4:30; " Signs and wonders be done through the Holy Servant Jesus" (From the Revised standard Version ) 

Ø Acts 3:13 ; The God of Abraham ,and of Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers glorified his servant Jesus".

Ø Acts 4:7 " For of a truth against thy Holy servant Jesus , see Matthew 12:18; also John 13:16 etc...

Ø For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God. Peter said:

Ø “God raised up his servant...” (Acts 3:26).

Ø The title servant refers to Jesus. This is clear from a previous passage where Peter declared: “The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.” (Acts 3:13).

Ø Peter must have known that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob never spoke of a Triune God. They always spoke of God as the only God. Here, as in Matthew 12:18, Jesus is the servant of God. Matthew tells us that Jesus was the same servant of God spoken of in Isaiah 42:1. So, according to Matthew and Peter, Jesus is not God, but God’s servant. The Old Testament repeatedly says that God is alone (e.g. Isaiah 45:5).

Ø All of the disciples of Jesus held this view. In Acts 4:24 we are told that the believers prayed to God saying: “...they raised their voices together in prayer to God. ‘Sovereign Lord,’ they said, ‘you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.’”

Ø It is clear that the one they were praying to was not Jesus, because, two verses later, they referred to Jesus as “...your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.” (Acts 4:27).

Ø Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, 1 Timothy 6:16 - No one saw God.

Ø Isaiah 42:8 - Do not praise and worship images. (i.e. Jesus)

Ø Isaiah 45:1 - "Anointed" does not mean "God".

Ø Matthew 14:23, 19:13, 26:39, 27:46, 26:42-44 - Jesus prayed.

Ø Luke 6:12 (Jesus prayed to ALLAH alone)

Ø Matthew 24:36 - Jesus was not all-knowing.

Ø Matthew 26:39 - Jesus and God had different wills.

Ø Matthew 28:18 - All power was given to Jesus. M

Ø Mark 1:35, 6:46, 14:35-36 - Jesus prayed.

Ø Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.

Ø Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.

Ø Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.

Ø Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.

Ø Luke 3:21, 5:16, 6:12, 9:18, 9:28, 11:1-4, 22:41 - Jesus prayed/ bowed to Allah. (Luke 6:12)

Ø Luke 4:18, 9:48, 10:16 - Jesus was from God.

Ø Luke 10:21 - Jesus gave thanks.

Ø Luke 23:46 - The spirit of Jesus was commended to God.

Ø John 4:23-24 - Worship in spirit and truth.

Ø John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.

Ø John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.

Ø John 5:20 - The Father showed the son.

Ø John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.

Ø John 5:31-32 - Jesus' witness was not true.

Ø John 6:11 and 11:41-42 - Jesus gave thanks.

Ø John 6:32 - The Father was the provider, not the son.

Ø John 7:29, 16:5, 16:28 - Jesus was from God.

Ø John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus' words were not his.

Ø John 8:42 - Jesus did not come of himself.

Ø John 10:29 - "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all."

Ø John 14:1 - Jesus said, "...believe also in me."

Ø John 14:16, 17:1, 17:9, 17:11, 17:15 - Jesus prayed.

Ø John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.

Ø John 17:6-8 - "I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me."

Ø John 20:17 - Jesus had a god.

Ø Acts 2:22 - Jesus was "a man approved of God."

Ø Romans 8:34 - Jesus was an intercessor.

Ø 1 Timothy 2:5 - Jesus was the mediator between God and humans

Ø If Jesus was God, his disciples should have said this clearly. Instead, they kept preaching that Jesus was God’s Christ. We are told in Acts: “Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Christ.” (Acts 5:42).

Ø The Greek word “Christ” is a human title. It means “Anointed.” If Jesus was God, why would the disciples continually refer to him with human titles like servant and Christ of God, and consistently use the title God for the one who raised Jesus? Did they fear men? No! They boldly preached the truth fearing neither imprisonment nor death. When they faced opposition from the authorities, Peter declared: “We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus...” (Acts 5:29-30).

Ø Were they lacking the Holy Spirit? No! They were supported by the Holy Spirit (see Acts 2:3, 4:8, and 5:32). They were simply teaching what they had learnt from Jesus — that Jesus was not God but, rather, God’s servant and Christ.

Ø The Qur'an confirms that Jesus was the Messiah (Christ), and that he was God’s servant (see the Holy Qur'an 3:45 and 19:30).

Ø Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a servant and therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God changed. But God does not change. God said so according to Malachi 3:6.

Ø Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10).

Comments: The above verses can be found in Revised standard Version, Good News Bible, Jehova Witnesses Bible, and New English Bible. It is only in the Kings James Version that the word "Son" is inserted instead of the word "Servant" in above verses. This mistake is still to be corrected in the New King James Version of the Bible. The Amplified Bible used both " Son and Servant" in order to confuse the readers. Why all these hanky pankies in the Bible ?

38 Simple Reasons Why Is Jesus Not God

Bismillah Hir Rehman Ir Raheem
In the Name Of Allah The Most Beneficent The Most Merciful

1- God Doesn’t Change His Nature (Malachi 3:6)

2-  GOD Almighty is Greater than Jesus. (John 14:28 )
3- No one is "Good" including Jesus. Only GOD is" Good" (Luke 18:19)
4- Jesus said he doesn't know when the Hour will come. Only GOD Knows. (Mark 13:32)
5- Jesus said that" OUR God is One GOD " (Mark 12:29 )
6- Jesus also said "My GOD and your GOD" (John 20:17)
7- Jesus bowed his face down to the ground to GOD Almighty. (Matthew 26:39)
8- Jesus was tempted by satan for 40 days(Mat1:4), while GOD Almighty cannot be tempted (Jacob 1:13)
9- Jesus said he is a man (John 8:40)
10- God is neither a man nor a son of a man (Numbers 23:19)
11- No one can see god (1 John 4:20) but people saw Jesus
12- God is the living and everlasting (Habakkuk 1:12)
13- Jesus always confessed he is just a prophet sent by god (Matthew 21:10-11)
14- God Declare Himself to be God, Jesus didn't (Ezekiel 20:20)
15- Jesus told his real mission was to preach not sacrifice (Mark 1:38)
16- Jesus desired Mercy not Sacrifice (Matthew 9:13)
17- Jesus referred himself as Servant: Matthew 10:24, 24:45, 12:18 John 13:16
18- Prophet: Matthew 8:20 13:16,21:11, Mark 6:15, 6;4, 9;37, Luke 7:16, 9:8, 9:19, John 13:17, 7:16, 6:14, 7:40
19- Son of Man: Matthew 5:9, 17:22, 8:20, 18:11, 26:2, Luke 9:22, John 5:27
20- Slave: John 13:16, Matthew 10:24
21- Student: Matthew 10:24
22- Father is Greater than Jesus (John 14:28) How can someone can be greater than God?
23- Jesus was taught by the Father (John 8:28)
24- Jesus can do nothing by himself (John 5:19, John 5:30)
25- Jesus does not even has his own doctrine (John 7:16)
26- Jesus ascend to his God (John 20:17)
27- According to Christian Jesus died as recorded in Matthew 27:27-56 but Bible says that God is infinite Pslams 102:27-27
28- Jesus needed to Pray, Eat, Drink and Was Helped by Woman, as stated in Luke 8:1-3 but God in Bible is self-sufficient Psalm 50:12
29- The God remain the same in nature (Hebrews 1:12)
30- Jesus is the same human today, yesterday and forever (Hebrew 13:8)
31- Jesus could not save anyone as he was even not able to save himself (Hebrews 5:1-8)
32- Jesus said he was send to lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24)
33- God can not be born and perhaps form his own creation
34- Jesus never said people to worship me
35- Jesus did not taught Trinity
36- God is the essence of the worship. He is the object of worship. Had Jesus been God, he would have told people to worship him. Truly, he did the exact opposite as in Matthew 15:9
37- Jesus never called his followers Christians, Paul did
38- Jesus as a servant of God (Matthew 12:18)  

Jesus refered himseld as:

Servant::
Matthew 10:24, 24:45, 12:18 John 13:16.
Prophet:
Matthew 8:20 13:16,21:11, Mark 6:15, 6;4, 9;37, Luke 7:16, 24:19, 13:33, 9:8, 9:19, 22:48,22:69 , John 13:17, 7:16, 12:49, 6:14, 7:40.
Son of Man:
Matthew 5;9, 17:22, 8:20, 18:11, 26:2, Luke 9:22, John 5:27
Slave:
John 13:16, Matthew 10:24.
Student:
Matthew 10:24

If you are a Christian, read the Bible over and over... Read every word, every sentence, every verse. Read all the books in the Bible… Ask these questions, then answer them yourselves… I am afraid, ur logical system will collapse… Who is God? Jesus. Where did Jesus come from? From his Father? Who is his Father? God. How many Gods? One - repeat the process and you will start to feel the wonder of madness sipping through your body Next......... Who is Mary? She is Jesus' mother. Who is Jesus? he is God who creates everything? Who creates Mary? stop..no more stupid question !!!! Next........ Is Jesus God? Yes? Does God pray? No. Did Jesus pray? Yes. Whom did Jesus pray to? Jesus prayed to God the Father. How many Gods? One. Who is God? Jesus. repeat and the warm of madness will slowly creep to your mind..ad soul... Next....... Jesus was not made into God… He was already God… Was Jesus already God when he was in the womb? - no answer

Please try to answer the following big questions: 

1- Why should Allah have a son? People like to have off springs to extend being mentioned after their death while Allah DOES NOT die. 

2- Why does Allah sacrifice his INNOCENT BELOVED SON for the sin of others? Doesn't this contradicts with his fatherhood on one hand & with his absolute justice on the other hand? 

3- Which sin is bigger: eating from the prohibited tree or killing? Allah-according to trinity, allowed Jesus enemies to KILL him ( a great sin) for a lesser sin done by another person (Adam). 

4- Isn't fear, escape & running away from enemies a coward act that does not apply to God?. Can you rely on someone who couldn't protect himself to protect you?. 

5- Who ruled the universe in Jesus absence when he died for 3 days?. 

6- Which form of trinity was crucified?

Try this set of questions if above is difficult:

1-Where in the bible did Jesus claim to be god?

2-Where in the bible did Jesus ask to be worshiped?

3-Where did Jesus say I am God Manifested in flesh?

4-Where did Jesus mention the original sin?

5-Where did Jesus say I am God the Son?

6-Where did Jesus say that I am God the Word?

7-Where did Jesus say I am the Second God in Trinity?

Now try to find the answer below:

Contradictions The basic problem is that trinitarianism is a nonbiblical doctrine that contradicts a number of biblical teachings and many specific verses of Scripture. Moreover, the doctrine contains a number of internal contradictions. Of course, the most obvious internal contradiction is how there can be three persons of God in any meaningful sense and yet there be only one God. Below we have compiled a number of other contradictions and problems associated with trinitarianism. This list is not exhaustive but it does give an idea of how much the doctrine deviates from the Bible. 
1. Did Jesus Christ have two fathers? The Father is the Father of the Son (I John 1:3), yet the child born of Mary was conceived by the Holy Ghost (Matthew 1:18, 20; Luke 1:35). Which one is the true father? Some trinitarians say that the Holy Ghost was merely the Father's agent in conception - a process they compare to artificial insemination! 
2. How many Spirits are there? God the Father is a Spirit (John 4:24), the Lord Jesus is a Spirit (II Corinthians 3:17), and the Holy Spirit is a Spirit by definition. Yet there is one Spirit (I Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). 
3. If Father and Son are co-equal persons, why did Jesus pray to the Father? (Matthew 11:25). Can God pray to God? 
4. Similarly, how can the Son not know as much as the Father? (Matthew 24:36; Mark 13:32). 
5. Similarly, how can the Son not have any power except what the Father gives Him? (John 5:19, 30; 6:38). 
6. Similarly, what about other verses of Scripture indicating the inequality of the Son and the Father? (John 8:42; 14:28; I Corinthians 11:3). 
7. Did "God the Son" die? The Bible says the Son died (Romans 5:10). If so, can God die? Can part of God die? 
8. How can there be an eternal Son when the Bible speaks of the begotten Son, clearly indicating that the Son had a beginning? (John 3:16; Hebrews 1:5-6). 
9. If the Son is eternal and existed at creation, who was His mother at that time? We know the Son was made of a woman (Galatians 4:4). 
10. Did "God the Son" surrender His omnipresence while on earth? If so, how could he still be God? 
11. If the Son is eternal and immutable (unchangeable), how can the reign of the Son have an ending? (I Corinthians 15:24-28). 
12. If in answer to questions 3 through 11 we say only the human Son of God was limited in knowledge, was limited in power, and died, then how can we speak of "God the Son"? Are there two Sons? 
13. Whom do we worship and to whom do we pray? Jesus said to worship the Father (John 4:21-24), yet Stephen prayed to Jesus (Acts 7:59-60). 
14. Can there be more than three persons in the Godhead? Certainly the Old Testament does not teach three but emphasizes oneness. If the New Testament adds to the Old Testament message and teaches three persons, then what is to prevent subsequent revelations of additional persons? If we apply trinitarian logic to interpret some verses of Scripture, we could teach a fourth person (Isaiah 48:16; Colossians 1:3; 2:2; I Thessalonians 3:11; James 1:27). Likewise, we could interpret some verses of Scripture to mean six more persons (Revelation 3:1; 5:6). 
15. Are there three Spirits in a Christian's heart? Father, Jesus, and the Spirit all dwell within a Christian (John 14:17, 23; Romans 8:9; Ephesians 3:14-17). Yet there is one Spirit (I Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:4). 
16. There is only one throne in heaven (Revelation 4:2). Who sits upon it? We know Jesus does (Revelation 1:8,18, 4:8). Where do the Father and the Holy Spirit sit? 
17. If Jesus is on the throne, how can He sit on the right hand of God? (Mark 16:19). Does He sit or stand on the right hand of God? (Acts 7:55). Or is He in the Father's bosom? (John 1:18). 
18. Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus? Colossians 2:9 says the latter. 
19. Given Matthew 28:19, why did the apostles consistently baptize both Jews and Gentiles using the name of Jesus, even to the extent of rebaptism? (Acts 2:38; 8:16; 10:48; 19:5; 22:16; I Corinthians 1:13). 
20. Who raised Jesus from the dead? Did the Father (Ephesians 1:20), or Jesus (John 2:19-21), or the Spirit? (Romans 8:11). 
21. If Son and Holy Ghost are co-equal persons in the Godhead, why is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost unforgivable but blasphemy of the Son is not? (Luke 12:10). 
22. If the Holy Ghost is a co-equal member of the trinity, why does the Bible always speak of Him being sent from the Father or from Jesus? (John 14:26; 15:26). 
23. Does the Father know something that the Holy Spirit does not know? If so, how can they be co-equal? Only the Father knows the day and hour of the Second Coming of Christ (Mark 13:32). 
24. Did the trinity make the Old and New covenants? We know the LORD (Jehovah) did (Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 8:7-13). If Jehovah is a trinity then Father, Son, and Spirit all had to die to make the new covenant effective (Hebrews 9:16-17). 
25. If the Spirit proceeds from the Father, is the Spirit also a son of the Father? If not, why not? 
26. If the Spirit proceeds from the Son, is the Spirit the grandson of the Father? If not, why not?

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Who Invented the Trinity?

Description: How the concept of the Trinity was introduced into the Christian doctrine.
Courtesy: Aisha Brown

What is the source of the Christian concept of the Trinity?

The three monotheistic religions – Judaism, Christianity, and Islam – all purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme Being, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. Known as “tawhid” in Islam, this concept of the Oneness of God was stressed by Moses in a Biblical passage known as the “Shema”, or the Jewish creed of faith: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” (Deuteronomy 6:4)
It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Jesus when he said “...The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.” (Mark 12:29)
Muhammad (PBUH) came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message again:

“AND YOUR GOD IS ONE GOD: THERE IS NO GOD BUT HE...” (QURAN 2:163)

Christianity has digressed from the concept of the Oneness of God, however, into a vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth century. This doctrine, which continues to be a source of controversy both within and outside the Christian religion, is known as the Doctrine of the Trinity. Simply put, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that God is the union of three divine persons – the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit – in one divine being.
If that concept, put in basic terms, sounds confusing, the flowery language in the actual text of the doctrine lends even more mystery to the matter:
“...we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity... for there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost is all one... they are not three gods, but one God... the whole three persons are co-eternal and co-equal... he therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity...” (excerpts from the Athanasian Creed)
Let’s put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father, plus one person, God the Son, plus one person, God the Holy Ghost, equals one person, God the What? Is this English or is this gibberish?
It is said that Athanasius, the bishop who formulated this doctrine, confessed that the more he wrote on the matter, the less capable he was of clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it.
How did such a confusing doctrine get its start?

Trinity in the Bible

References in the Bible to a Trinity of divine beings are vague, at best.
In Matthew 28:19, we find Jesus telling his disciples to go out and preach to all nations. While this “Great Commission” does make mention of the three persons who later become components of the Trinity, the phrase “...baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost” is quite clearly an addition to Biblical text – that is, not the actual words of Jesus – as can be seen by two factors:
1) baptism in the early Church, as discussed by Paul in his letters, was done only in the name of Jesus; and
2) the “Great Commission” was found in the first gospel written, that of Mark, bears no mention of Father, Son and/or Holy Ghost – see Mark 16:15.
The only other reference in the Bible to a Trinity can be found in the Epistle of 1 John 5:7. Biblical scholars of today, however, have admitted that the phrase “... there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” is definitely a “later addition” to Biblical text, and it is not found in any of today’s versions of the Bible.

It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings was not an idea put forth by Jesus or any other prophet of God. This doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely man-made in origin.

The Doctrine Takes Shape

While Paul of Tarsus, the man who could rightfully be considered the true founder of Christianity, did formulate many of its doctrines, that of the Trinity was not among them. He did, however, lay the groundwork for such when he put forth the idea of Jesus being a “divine Son”. After all, a Son does need a Father, and what about a vehicle for God’s revelations to man? In essence, Paul named the principal players, but it was the later Church people who put the matter together.

Tertullian, a lawyer and presbyter of the third-century Church in Carthage, was the first to use the word “Trinity” when he put forth the theory that the Son and the Spirit participate in the being of God, but all are of one being of substance with the Father.

Who Invented the Trinity? (part 2 of 2)

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Description: How the injected doctrine of the trinity remained part of the beliefs of the Christians and the explanation of how Islam defines God.

By Aisha Brown

A Formal Doctrine Is Drawn Up

When controversy over the matter of the Trinity blew up in 318 between two church men from Alexandria – Arius, the deacon, and Alexander, his bishop – Emperor Constantine stepped into the fray.
Although Christian dogma was a complete mystery to him, he did realize that a unified church was necessary for a strong kingdom. When negotiation failed to settle the dispute, Constantine called for the first ecumenical council in Church history in order to settle the matter once and for all.
Six weeks after the 300 bishops first gathered at Nicea in 325, the doctrine of the Trinity was hammered out. The God of the Christians was now seen as having three essences, or natures, in the form of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

The Church Puts Its Foot Down

The matter was far from settled, however, despite high hopes for such on the part of Constantine. Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, a man named Athanasius, began arguing over the matter even as the Nicene Creed was being signed; “Arianism” became a catch-word from that time onward for anyone who didn’t hold to the doctrine of the Trinity.
It wasn’t until 451, at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of the Pope, the Nicene/Constantinople Creed was set as authoritative. Debate on the matter was no longer tolerated; to speak out against the Trinity was now considered blasphemy, and such earned stiff sentences that ranged from mutilation to death. Christians now turned on Christians, maiming and slaughtering thousands because of a difference of opinion.

Debate Continues

Brutal punishments and even death did not stop the controversy over the doctrine of the Trinity, however, and the said controversy continues even today.
The majority of Christians, when asked to explain this fundamental doctrine of their faith, can offer nothing more than “I believe it because I was told to do so.” It is explained away as “mystery” – yet the Bible says in 1 Corinthians 14:33 that “... God is not the author of confusion ...”
The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity. As a result, mainstream Christians abhor them, and the National Council of Churches has refused their admittance. In Unitarianism, the hope is kept alive that Christians will someday return to the preachings of Jesus: “... Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.” (Luke 4:8)

Islam and the Matter of the Trinity

While Christianity may have a problem defining the essence of God, such is not the case in Islam:

They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity, for there is no god except One God” (Quran 5:73)
It is worth noting that the Arabic language Bible uses the name “Allah” as the name of God.
Suzanne Haneef, in her book What Everyone Should Know About Islam and Muslims (Library of Islam, 1985), puts the matter quite succinctly when she says:

“But God is not like a pie or an apple which can be divided into three thirds which form one whole; if God is three persons or possesses three parts, He is assuredly not the Single, Unique, Indivisible Being which God is and which Christianity professes to believe in.”

Looking at it from another angle, the Trinity designates God as being three separate entities – the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. If God is the Father and also the Son, He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is not exactly logical.
Christianity claims to be a monotheistic religion. Monotheism, however, has as its fundamental belief that God is One; the Christian doctrine of the Trinity – God being Three-in-One – is seen by Islam as a form of polytheism. Christians don’t revere just One God, they revere three.
This is a charge not taken lightly by Christians, however. They, in turn, accuse the Muslims of not even knowing what the Trinity is, pointing out that the Quran sets it up as Allah the Father, Jesus the Son, and Mary his mother. While veneration of Mary has been a figment of the Catholic Church since 431 when she was given the title “Mother of God” by the Council of Ephesus, a closer examination of the verses in the Quran most often cited by Christians in support of their accusation, shows that the designation of Mary by the Quran as a “member” of the Trinity, is simply not true.
While the Quran does condemn both trinitarianism (the Quran 4:171; 5:73) and the worship of Jesus and his mother Mary (the Quran 5:116), nowhere does it identify the actual three components of the Christian Trinity. The position of the Quran is that WHO or WHAT comprises this doctrine is not important; what is important is that the very notion of a Trinity is an affront against the concept of One God.
In conclusion, we see that the doctrine of the Trinity is a concept conceived entirely by man; there is no sanction whatsoever from God to be found regarding the matter simply because the whole idea of a Trinity of divine beings has no place in monotheism. In the Quran, God’s Final Revelation to mankind, we find His stand quite clearly stated in a number of eloquent passages:

“... YOUR GOD IS ONE GOD: WHOEVER EXPECTS TO MEET HIS LORD, LET HIM WORK RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND, IN THE WORSHIP OF HIS LORD, ADMIT NO ONE AS PARTNER.” (QURAN 18:110)

“... TAKE NOT, WITH GOD, ANOTHER OBJECT OF WORSHIP, LEST YOU SHOULD BE THROWN INTO HELL, BLAMEWORTHY AND REJECTED.” (QURAN 17:39)

– because, as God tells us over and over again in a Message that is echoed throughout ALL His Revealed Scriptures:

“... I AM YOUR LORD AND CHERISHER: THEREFORE, SERVE ME (AND NO OTHER) ...” (QURAN 21:92)

Footnotes:

What Everyone Should Know About Islam and Muslims (Library of Islam, 1985) (pp. 183-184)

“O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about God except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a Messenger of God and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. And do not say, ‘Three’; desist—it is better for you. Indeed, God is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is God as Disposer of affairs.” (Quran 4:171)

“And [beware the Day] when God will say, ‘O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as deities besides God?’ ‘He will say, ‘Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.’ (Quran 5:116)

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Jesus in the Gospel : Unitarianism - the True essence of Islam 

Courtesy : Francisco Quijada

Jesus came a as prophet calling people to worship GOD alone, as the prophets before him did. GOD says in chapter AN-NAHL (16:36) of the Qur'an: "Surely, I have sent to every nation a messenger(saying):Worship ALLAH and avoid false Gods".

In Luke 3:8, the devil asks to Jesus to worship him, promising him the authority and glory of all the kingdoms of this world. "and Jesus answered him, it is written. You shall worship the LORD your God, and him only shall you serve. Thus, the essence of the message of Jesus was that only God deserves to be worshiped and that the worship of anyone or anything besides God or along with God is false. Jesus not only called people to this message but he also practically demonstrated it for them by bowing down in prayer and worshiping God himself. In Mark 14:32, it states:"And they went to a place which was called Gethsemane;and he(Jesus) said to his disciples. Sit here, while I pray. And in Luke 5:16 "But he withdrew to the wilderness and prayed".

Jesus Called them to worship the one true GOD who is unique in his qualities. God does not have attributes of his creation, nor does any creature share any of attributes. In Matthew 19:16-17, when the man called Prophet Jesus "GOOD", saying: "Good teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?" Prophet Jesus replied:"Why do you call me 'Good'? No one is Good but One, that is GOD”. He denied the attribution of ‘infinite goodness’ or ‘perfect goodness’ to himself, and affirmed that this attribute belongs to ALLAH alone.

IDK why the vast majority of Christians today pray to Jesus, claiming that he is God. The Philosophers among them claim that they are not worshiping Jesus the man, but God who was manifest in Jesus the man. This is also the rationale of pagans who bow down in worship to idols.When a pagan philosopher is asked why he worships an idol which was made by human hands, he replies that he is not really worshiping the idol. 

Furthermore, he may claim that the idol is only a focal point for the presence of God, and thereby claim to be worshiping God who is manifest in the idol, and not the physical idol itself. There is little or no difference between that explanation and the answer given by Christians for worshiping Jesus. The origin of this deviation lies in the false belief that God is present in his creation Jesus message, which urged mankind to worship ONE GOD ALONE, became distorted after his departure. 

Later followers, beginning with Paul, turned that pure and simple message into a complicated Trinitarian philosophy which justified the worship to Jesus, and then the worship Jesus Mother’s Mary, the angels and saints. 

Catholics churches have a long list of saints to whom they turn in times of need. 

If something is lost, Saint Anthony of Thebes is prayed to in order to help to find it. 

St. Jude Thaddaeus is a patron saint of the impossible things and is prayed to for intercession in incurable illnesses, unlike marriages or the like. 

The patron saint of travelers was Saint Christopher, to whom travelers used to pray for protection up until 1969, when he was officially struck off the list of saints by papal decree, after it was confirmed that he was fictitious. Although he was officially crossed of the list of saints, there are many Catholics the world today who are still praying to St.Christopher.

Worshiping Saints contradicts and corrupts the worship of ONE GOD; and it is in vain, because neither the living nor the dead can answer the prayer of mankind. The worship of God should not be shared with his creation in any way, shape or form. In this regard, ALLAH said the following chapter in Al-A’raaf (7:194): “Surely, those whom you call on the prayer besides ALLAH are slaves like yourselves”.

This was the true message of Jesus Christ and all prophets before him. It was also the message of the last prophet, ‘MUHAMMAD’ (salla’alahu allahi w salaam). Thus, if a Muslim or person who calls himself a Muslim prays to a saint, he has stepped out of the bounds of Islam.

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Is Jesus Equal To The Father?

"AD 200 Noetus had been expelled from the Smyrnaean church for teaching that Christ was the Father, and that the Father himself was born, and suffered, and died." [A History of the Christian Church 2nd Ed. 1985 Williston Walker]

Simple answer to the question is that no Jesus is not equal to The Father nor can he ever be. Jesus himself confess many times that The Father is greater than him and everyone.
"My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all.." [John 10:29]
"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me." [John 5:30]
"Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his Lord, nor is one who is sent greater than the One who sent him." [John 13:16]
"The Father is greater than I." [John 14:28]
"So Jesus told them, "My message is not my own; it comes from God who sent me." [John 7:16]

Jesus was send by God to spread the true teachings and to deliever the God message to the people of Israel.
"Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work." [John 4:34]
The problem with Trinity is that it it was never preached by Jesus. Infact Jesus himself was a Monotheist not a Trinitarian. The word trnity doesn't appear in the whole scripture nor was preached by Jesus. If Jesus is equals to The Father why didn't he plainly said it rather than leaving Christians at the horns of dilemma. Trinity was introduced in Christianity by Paul who and was merely one of the Pagan Origins That Made Its Place Into Christianity.
"The term 'Trinity' does not appear in scripture" [Catholic Encyclopedia 1991]
"Anyone who can worship a trinity and insist that his religion is a monotheism can believe anything." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Trinity existed before coming of Jesus and was a Pagan practice. Early Christians Rejected Trinitybut today it is believed as a part of religion by many Christians.
The trinity was not there after 300 years of Jesus, nor ever preached by Jesus. The Old Testament is purely Monotheist and accepts the existence of only one God. The Attributes of Jesus Didn't Match With Attributes Of God
"For thou shalt worship no other god" [Exodus 34:14]
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one." [Deuteronomy 6:4]

And finally this verse comepletely answer the question.
"When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him [The Father] who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all." [1 Corinthians 15:28]
Jesus will be made subjected to The Father that is he is beneath the Father. How come Jesus be equal to Father when the scripture says Jesus will be made subjected to God. The word "subject" in the verse above is "hupotasso" in the Greek (#5293 in Strong's Concordance) , and means " subordinate...to be under obedience ." The root word is"hupo" (#5259 Strong's) and means " beneath...in an inferior position ." The Council of Nicea (325 A.D.) declared that Jesus is "co-equal" with God, but the apostle Paul did not know that. He says that Jesus will live eternally "subject" (subordinate, under obedience, and in an inferior position to) God the Father. 

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Ex-Christian Nun explains trinity or modern square http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSM1hu5gtus 

"CHRISTIAN MES-A-MATHICS" 

3. "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the FATHER, the WORD, and the HOLY GHOST: and these three are one." 1st Epistle of John 5:7 - AV 


This verse is the closest approximation to what the Christians call their Holy Trinity in the encyclopedia called the BIBLE. This key-stone of the Christian faith has also been scrapped from the RSV without even a semblance of explanation. It has been a pious fraud all along and well-deservedly has it been expunged in the RSV for the English-speaking people. But for the 1499 remaining language groups of the world who read the Christian concoctions in their mother tongues, the fraud remains. These people will never know the truth until the Day of Judgment. However, we Muslims must again congratulate the galaxy of D.D.’s who have been honest enough to eliminate another lie from the English (RSV) Bible, thus bringing their Holy Book yet another step closer to the teachings of Islam. 

For the Holy Qur'an says: AND DON'T SAY TRINITY DESIST: IT WILL BE BETTER FOR YOU FOR ALLAH IS ONE GOD: SURA NISSA 4:171

Trinitarians often like to claim that they have a monotheistic belief, and that the Trinity is not the worship of 3 Gods rather it is the worship of One God.

Basically they say the Trinity doctrine is as follow:

1- God is made up of 3 persons

2- The three persons are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit

3- All three persons are distinct from each other, The Father is not the Son, nor is the Son the Father etc.

4- Each person in the Trinity has a role of their own

5- Jesus is the Son in the Trinity

Basically, that is the dogma of the Trinity.

Now let us show exactly why Christians do in fact worship three God's. As I said, the Trinity is made up of THREE people; these three people are all different.

Example:

Let us even make it simpler for people: [/align]

Muslim: Is Jesus God?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: Is Jesus the Father?

Christian: No

Muslim: Is the Father God?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: Is The Father Jesus?

Christian: No

Muslim: So these are 2 different persons?

Christian: Yes, 2 distinct different persons

Muslim: And both are God?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: Is the Holy Spirit God?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: Is the Holy Spirit the Father or Jesus?

Christian: No, the Holy Spirit is not

Muslim: So Jesus is God, the Father is God, and the Holy Spirit is God?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: And these are three different persons?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: So you have three persons, each one is God, how many is that?

Christian: Three, opppssss!!!!!!!!!!!! No no!!!!! I meant one! [/align]

A more simpler version of above as per different christians understanding:

Muslim: Is Jesus God?

Christian: No

Muslim: Is Jesus the Father?

Christian: No

Muslim: Is the Father God?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: Is The Father Jesus?

Christian: No

Muslim: So these are 2 different persons?

Christian: Yes, 2 distinct different persons

Muslim: And both are God?

Christian: No. One is son of the father (i.e. Jesus Barabbas (Bar means son, and abbas mean of the father) who was released Mathew 27:17 So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: JESUS BARABBAS (SON OF THE FATHER), or Jesus (King of the Jews) …… Mathew 27:21 “WHICH OF THE TWO DO YOU WANT ME TO RELEASE TO YOU?” ASKED THE GOVERNOR. “BARABBAS,” THEY ANSWERED.)

Muslim: Is the Holy Spirit God?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: Is the Holy Spirit the Father or Jesus?

Christian: No, the Holy Spirit is neither Father nor Jesus

Muslim: So Jesus and Holy Spirit are not Gods, but only the Father is God.

Christian: Yes

Muslim: And these are three different persons?

Christian: Yes

Muslim: So you have three distinct persons, then how come they are one and the same?

Christian: opppssss!!!!!!!!!!!! No no!!!!! I meant they all 3 are God seperately which is why they are one! [/align]

Muslim: What is the sum of 1+1+1

Christian: 3

Muslim: Then why Father 1+ Son 1 + HolySpirit 1 are = 1 . Are you a drop out from Maths class

Christian: opppssss!!!!!!!!!!!! No No see they are 1 in 3 as the example taught to us by great priest was Water 3 = vapour 1 + Ice 1 + liquid 1

Muslim: So You are saying God 1 in 3 i.e. God was 1 before and then later became 3 by taking three forms. Because as per your theory Son was born on 25th dec and Born thing from between the legs of a women cannot be God.

Christian: opppssss!!!!!!!!!!!! No No Son bypassed the Father and became God but all 3 are 1 sorry they are not 1 in 3. Its an example of an egg basically Three portions of an egg (Shell, White ingredient and Yoke) make 1 egg.

Muslim: if you drop an egg its not an egg anymore explain a broken egg. It was one and became 3. so your egg theory states that God is 1 in 3 not 3 in 1. According to your main theory God total should end up in 1.

Christian: opppssss!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok another example of 3 in 1 is an apple. There is one apple 1 = Skin 1 + its white portion 1 + Seed 1

Muslim: what if there are more than 2 seeds or 3 seeds or 4 seeds. Then count how many gods you have

Christian: Ok I am confused now because we Catholics also have another God head because we worship Mary the mother of Jesus (the son of Mary) one more the Mother of Jesus (Mama Mary).

Muslim: so you mean there are 4 in 1 not 3 in 1 as Christians specially Filipino Christians worship this 4th god head

Christian: Yes we christians know this is an additional confusion on top of our head. Now trinity is becoming more advanced and has become a square. Father, mother, Son and Holy Ghost. They are 4 are 1

Muslim: But Jesus recorded words in Mark 12:29 ' Here O Isreal the lord our God is One lord.'  are simple and straight forward like in the Quran 112:1 Say God (ALLAH) is only One.

Christian: True. I want embrace the truth (Islamic Monotheism) now. Enough is enough. I have found God (ALLAH) and understood Jesus Son of Mary. I now understand the truth   Quran 4:171 “O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God anything but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a Messenger of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His Messengers. Do not say “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for God is One God: glory be to Him: (far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs”

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Maths of Trinity explained for Ultimate Conceptual clarity

The Christian Trinity-inasmuch as it admits a plurality of persons in the Deity, attributes distinct personal properties to each person; and makes use of family names similar to those in the pagan mythology-cannot be accepted as a true conception of the Deity. Allah is neither the father of a son nor the son of a father. He has no mother, nor is He selfinade.

The belief in "God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Ghost" is a flagrant denial of the unity of God, and an audacious confession in three imperfect beings who, unitedly or separately, cannot be the true God.

Mathematics as a positive science teaches us that a unit is no more nor less than one; that one is never equal to one plus one plus one; in other words, one cannot be equal to three, because one is the third of the three. In the same way, one is not equal to a third. And vice versa, three are not equal to one, nor can a third be equal to a unit. The unit is the basis of all numbers, and a standard for the measurements and weights of all dimensions, distances, quantities and time. In fact, all numbers are aggregates of the unit 1. Ten is an aggregate of so many equal units of the same kind.

Those who maintain the unity of God in the trinity of persons tell us that "each person is omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal and perfect God; yet there are not three omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal and perfect Gods, but one omnipotent . . . God!" If there is no sophistry in the above reasoning then we shall present this "mystery" of the churches by an equation:-

I God = I God + I God + I God; therefore: I God = 3 Gods. In the first place, one god cannot equal three gods, but only one of them. Secondly, since you admit each person to be perfect God like His two associates, your conclusion that 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 is not mathematical, but an absurdity!

You are either too arrogant when you attempt to prove that three units equal one unit; or too cowardly to admit that three ones equal three ones. In the former case you can never prove a wrong solution of a problem by a false process; and in the second you have not the courage to confess your belief in three gods.

Besides, we all-Muslims and Christians-believe that God is Omnipresent, that He fills and encompasses every space and particle. Is it conceivable that all the three persons of the Deity at the same time and separately encompass the universe, or is it only one of them at the time? To say "the Deity does this" would be no answer at all. For Deity is not God, but the state of being God, and therefore a quality. Godhead is the quality of one God; it is not susceptible of plurality nor of diminution. There are no godheads but one Godhead, which is the attribute of one God alone.

Then we are told that each person of the trinity has some particular attributes which are not proper to the other two. And these attributes indicate-according to human reasoning and language-priority and posteriority among them. The Father always holds the first rank, and is prior to the Son. The Holy Ghost is not only posterior as the third in the order of counting but even inferior to those from whom he proceeds. Would it not be considered a sin of heresy if the names of the three persons were conversely repeated? Will not the signing of the cross upon the countenance or over the elements of the Eucharist be considered impious by the Churches if the formula be reversed thus: "In the name of the Holy Ghost, and of the Son, and of the Father"? For if they are absolutely equal and coeval, the order of precedence need not be so scrupulously observed.

The fact is that the Popes and the General Councils have always condemned the Sabelian doctrine which maintained that God is one but that He manifested Himself as the Father or as the Son or as the Holy Spirit, being always one and the same person. Of course, the religion of Islam does not endorse or sanction the Sabelian views.

God manifested His Jamal or beauty in Christ (PBUH), His jalal or glory and majesty in Muhammad (Peace and blessings of Allah be on him), and His wisdom in Solomon (PBUH), and so on in many other objects of Nature, but none of those prophets is any more God than the vast ocean or the majestic sky.

The truth is that there is no mathematical exactitude, no absolute equality between the three persons of the Trinity. If the Father were in every respect equal to the Son or the Holy Spirit, as the unit 1 is positively equal to another figure 1, then there would necessarily be only one person of God and not three, because a unit is not a fragment or fraction nor a multiple of itself. The very difference and relationship that is admitted to exist between the persons of the Trinity leaves no shadow of doubt that they are neither equal to each other nor are they to be identified with one another. The Father begets and is not begotten; the Son is begotten and not a father; the Holy Ghost is the issue of the other two persons; the first person is described as creator and destroyer; the second as saviour or redeemer, and the third as life-giver. Consequently none of the three is alone the Creator, the Redeemer and the Life-giver. Then we are told that the second person is the Word of the first Person, becomes man and is sacrificed on the cross to satisfy the justice of his father, and that his incarnation and resurrection are operated and accomplished by the third person.

In conclusion, I must remind Christians that unless they believe in the absolute unity of God, and renounce the belief in the three persons, they are certainly unbelievers in the true God. Strictly speaking, Christians are polytheists, only with this exception, that the gods of the heathen are false and imaginary, whereas the three gods of the Churches have a distinct character, o!' whom the Father-as another epithet for Creator-is the One true God, but the son is only a prophet and servant of God, and the third person one of the innumerable holy spirits in the service of the Almighty God.

In the Old Testament, God is called Father because of His being a loving creator and protector, but as the Churches abused this name, the Qur'an has justly refrained from using it.

The Old Testament and the Qur'an condemn the doctrine of three persons in God; and also Jesus (Son of Mary) in the New Testament condemns trinity in the above verses.

It might with advantage be added that in the East the Unitarian Christians always combated and protested against the Trinitarians, and that when they beheld the utter destruction of the "Fourth Beast" by the Great Messenger of Allah, they accepted and followed him. The Devil, who spoke through the mouth of the serpent to Eve, uttered blasphemies against the Most High through the mouth of the "Little Horn" which sprang up among the "Ten Horns" upon the head of the "Fourth Beast" (Daniel viii), was none other than Constantine the Great, who officially and violently proclaimed the Nicene Creed. But, Muhammad (Peace and blessings of Allah be on him) has destroyed the "Iblis" or the Devil from the Promised Land for ever, by establishing Islam there as the religion of the one true God.

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Acts of the Apostles

Jesus performed many miraculous wonders, and he without doubt said a lot of wonderful things about himself. Some people use what he said and did as a proof that he was God. But his original disciples who lived and walked with him, and were eyewitnesses to what he said and did, never reached this conclusion.

The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was lifted up to heaven. Throughout this period they never refer to Jesus as God. They continually and consistently use the title God to refer to someone else other than Jesus.

Peter stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed the crowd saying:

“Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.” (Acts 2:22).

It was God, therefore, who did the miracles through Jesus to convince people that Jesus was backed by God. Peter did not see the miracles as proof that Jesus is God.

In fact, the way Peter refers to God and to Jesus makes it clear that Jesus is not God. For he always turns the title God away from Jesus. Take the following references for example:

“God has raised this Jesus...” (Acts 2:32)

“God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.” (Acts 2:36)

In both passages, the title God is turned away from Jesus. So why he did this, if Jesus was God?

For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God. Peter said:

“God raised up his servant...” (Acts 3:26).

The title servant refers to Jesus. This is clear from a previous passage where Peter declared:

“The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.” (Acts 3:13).

Peter must have known that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob never spoke of a Triune God. They always spoke of God as the only God. Here, as in Matthew 12:18, Jesus is the servant of God. Matthew tells us that Jesus was the same servant of God spoken of in Isaiah 42:1. So, according to Matthew and Peter, Jesus is not God, but God’s servant. The Old Testament repeatedly says that God is alone (e.g. Isaiah 45:5).

All of the disciples of Jesus held this view. In Acts 4:24 we are told that the believers prayed to God saying:

“...they raised their voices together in prayer to God. ‘Sovereign Lord,’ they said, ‘you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.’”

It is clear that the one they were praying to was not Jesus, because, two verses later, they referred to Jesus as

“...your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.” (Acts 4:27).

If Jesus was God, his disciples should have said this clearly. Instead, they kept preaching that Jesus was God’s Christ. We are told in Acts:

“Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Christ.” (Acts 5:42).

The Greek word “Christ” is a human title. It means “Anointed.” If Jesus was God, why would the disciples continually refer to him with human titles like servant and Christ of God, and consistently use the title God for the one who raised Jesus? Did they fear men? No! They boldly preached the truth fearing neither imprisonment nor death. When they faced opposition from the authorities, Peter declared:

“We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus...” (Acts 5:29-30).

Were they lacking the Holy Spirit? No! They were supported by the Holy Spirit (see Acts 2:3, 4:8, and 5:32). They were simply teaching what they had learnt from Jesus — that Jesus was not God but, rather, God’s servant and Christ.

The Qur'an confirms that Jesus was the Messiah (Christ), and that he was God’s servant (see the Holy Qur'an 3:45 and 19:30).

Jesus is Not All-Powerful, and Not All-Knowing

Christians and Muslims agree that God is all-powerful and all-knowing. The Gospels show that Jesus was not all-powerful, and not all-knowing, since he had some limitations.

Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus was unable to do any powerful work in his hometown except few things: “He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.” (Mark 6:5). Mark also tells us that when Jesus tried to heal a certain blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (see Mark 8:22-26).

Therefore, although we hold a great love and respect for Jesus, we need to understand that he is not the all-powerful God.

Mark’s Gospel also reveals that Jesus had limitations in his knowledge. In Mark 13:32, Jesus declared that he himself does not know when the last day will occur, but the Father alone knows that (see also Matthew 24:36).

Therefore, Jesus could not have been the all-knowing God. Some will say that Jesus knew when the last day will occur, but he chose not to tell. But that complicates matters further. Jesus could have said that he knows but he does not wish to tell. Instead, he said that he does not know. We must believe him. Jesus does not lie at all.

The Gospel of Luke also reveals that Jesus had limited knowledge. Luke says that Jesus increased in wisdom (Luke 2:52). In Hebrews too (Hebrews 5:8) we read that Jesus learned obedience. But God’s knowledge and wisdom is always perfect, and God does not learn new things. He knows everything always. So, if Jesus learned something new, that proves that he did not know everything before that, and thus he was not God.

Another example for the limited knowledge of Jesus is the fig tree episode in the Gospels. Mark tells us as follows: “The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.” (Mark 11:12-13).

It is clear from these verses that the knowledge of Jesus was limited on two counts. First, he did not know that the tree had no fruit until he came to it. Second, he did not know that it was not the right season to expect figs on trees.

Can he become God later? No! Because there is only one God, and He is God from everlasting to everlasting (see Psalms 90:2).

Someone may say that Jesus was God but he took the form of a servant and therefore became limited. Well, that would mean that God changed. But God does not change. God said so according to Malachi 3:6.

Jesus never was God, and never will be. In the Bible, God declares: “Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.” (Isaiah 43:10).

The Greatest Commandment in the Bible and the Qur'an

Some will say that this whole discussion over the divinity of Jesus is unnecessary. They say, the important thing is to accept Jesus as your personal savior. On the contrary, the Bible’s writers stressed that, in order to be saved, it is necessary to understand who exactly is God. Failure to understand this would be to violate the first and greatest of all the commandments in the Bible. This commandment was emphasized by Jesus, on whom be peace, when a teacher of the Law of Moses asked him: “‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’ ‘The most important one,’ answered Jesus, ‘is this: Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’” (Mark 12:28-30).

Notice that Jesus was quoting the first commandment from the book of Deuteronomy 6:4-5. Jesus confirmed not only that this commandment is still valid, but also that it is the most important of all the commandments. If Jesus thought that he himself is God, why did not he say so? Instead, he stressed that God is one. The man who questioned Jesus understood this, and what the man says next makes it clear that God is not Jesus, for he said to Jesus: “‘Well said, teacher,’ the man replied. ‘You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him.’” (Mark 12:32).

Now if Jesus was God, he would have told the man so. Instead, he let the man refer to God as someone other than Jesus, and he even saw that the man had spoken wisely: “When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, ‘You are not far from the kingdom of God.’” (Mark 12:34). If Jesus knew that God is a trinity, why did not he say so? Why did not he say that God is one in three, or three in one? Instead, he declared that God is one. True imitators of Jesus will imitate him also in this declaration of God’s oneness. They will not add the word three where Jesus never said it.

Does salvation depend on this commandment? Yes, says the Bible! Jesus made this clear when another man approached Jesus to learn from him (see Mark 10:17-29). The man fell on his knees and said to Jesus: “Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” Jesus replied: “Why do you call me good? No one is good — except God alone.” (Mark 10:17-18).

Luke 18:19 - Aramaic
ܐܡܪ ܠܗ ܝܫܘܥ ܡܢܐ ܩܪܐ ܐܢܬ ܠܝ ܛܒܐ ܠܝܬ ܛܒܐ ܐܠܐ ܐܢ ܚܕ ܐܠܗܐ ܀
āmar leh yešūa mānā qārē ant lī ṭāḇā?
layt ṭāḇā ellā en ḥaḏ ălāhā
"And Jesus said unto him, Why do you call me good?
no one is good except Alaha (God) alone"
Aramaic translation
http://www.dukhrana.com/peshitta/index.php 

By so saying, Jesus made a clear distinction between himself and God. Then he proceeded with the answer to the man’s question about how to get salvation. Jesus told him: “If you want to enter life, obey the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17, also see Mark 10:19).

Remember that the most important of all the commandments, according to Jesus, is to know God as the only God. Jesus further emphasized this in the Gospel According to John. In John 17:1, Jesus lifted his eyes to heaven and prayed, addressing God as Father. Then in verse three, he said to God as follows: “Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” (John 17:3).

This proves beyond doubt that if people want to get eternal life they must know that the One, whom Jesus was praying to, is the only true God, and they must know that Jesus was sent by the true God. Some say that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. But Jesus said that the Father alone is the only true God. True followers of Jesus will follow him in this too. Jesus had said that his true followers are those who hold to his teachings. He said: “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.” (John 8:31). His teaching is that people must continue to keep the commandments, especially the first commandment which emphasizes that God is alone, and that God should be loved with all our hearts and all our strengths.

We love Jesus, but we must not love him as God. Today many love Jesus more than they love God. This is because they see God as a vengeful person who wanted to exact a penalty from them, and they see Jesus as the savior who rescued them from the wrath of God. Yet God is our only savior. According to Isaiah 43:11, God said: “I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.”Also God said according to Isaiah 45:21-22: “Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me. Turn to me and be saved, all you ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no other.”

The Qur'an confirms the first commandment and addresses it to all humankind (see the Holy Qur'an 2:163). And God declares that true believers love Him more than anyone else or anything else (Qur'an 2:165).

Paul Believed That Jesus is not God

In his first letter to Timothy, Paul wrote: “I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions...” (1 Timothy 5:21).

It is clear from this that the title God applies not to Christ Jesus, but to someone else. In the following chapter, he again differentiates between God and Jesus when he says: “In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession...” (1 Timothy 6:13).

Paul then went on to speak of the second appearance of Jesus: “the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time.” (1 Timothy 6:14-15).

Again, the title God is deliberately turned away from Jesus. Incidentally, many people think that when Jesus is called “Lord” in the Bible that this means “God.” But in the Bible this title means master or teacher, and it can be used for addressing humans (see 1 Peter 3:6).

What is more important, however, is to notice what Paul said about God in the following passage, which clearly shows that Jesus is not God: “God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever.” (1 Timothy 6:15-16).

Paul said that God alone is immortal. Immortal means he does not die. Check any dictionary. Now, anyone who believes that Jesus died cannot believe that Jesus is God. Such a belief would contradict what Paul said here. Furthermore, to say that God died is a blasphemy against God. Who would run the world if God died? Paul believed that God does not die.

Paul also said in that passage that God dwells in unapproachable light — that no one has seen God or can see him. Paul knew that many thousands of people had seen Jesus. Yet Paul said that no one has seen God, because Paul was sure that Jesus is not God. This is why Paul went on teaching that Jesus was not God, but that he was the Christ (see Acts 9:22 and 18:5).

When he was in Athens, Paul spoke of God as “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.” (Acts 17:24). Then he identified Jesus as “the man he (i.e. God) has appointed.” (Acts 17:31).

Clearly, for Paul, Jesus was not God, and he would be shocked to see his writings used for proving the opposite of what he believed. Paul even testified in court saying: “I admit that I worship the God of our fathers...” (Acts 24:14).

He also said that Jesus is the servant of that God, for we read in Acts: “The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.” (Acts 3:13).

For Paul, the Father alone is God. Paul said that there is “one God and Father of all...” (Ephesians 4:6). Paul said again: “...for us there is but one God, the Father . . . and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ...” (1 Corinthians 8:6).

Paul’s letter to the Philippians (Philippians 2:6-11) is often quoted as a proof that Jesus is God. But the very passage shows that Jesus is not God. This passage has to agree with Isaiah 45:22-24 where God said that every knee should bow to God, and every tongue should confess that righteousness and strength are in God alone. Paul was aware of this passage, for he quoted it in Romans 14:11. Knowing this, Paul declared: “I kneel before the Father.” (Ephesians 3:14).

The letter to the Hebrews (Hebrews 1:6) says that the angels of God should worship the Son. But this passage depends on Deuteronomy 32:43, in the Septuagint version of the Old Testament. This phrase cannot be found in the Old Testament used by Christians today, and the Septuagint version is no longer considered valid by Christians. However, even the Septuagint version, does not say worship the Son. It says let the Angels of God worship God. The Bible insists that God alone is to be worshipped: “When the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: ‘Do not worship any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them. But the LORD, who brought you up out of Egypt with mighty power and outstretched arm, is the one you must worship. To him you shall bow down and to him offer sacrifices. You must always be careful to keep the decrees and ordinances, the laws and commands he wrote for you. Do not worship other gods. Do not forget the covenant I have made with you, and do not worship other gods. Rather, worship the LORD your God; it is he who will deliver you from the hand of all your enemies.’” (2 Kings 17:35-39).

Jesus, on whom be peace, believed in this, for he also stressed it in Luke 4:8. And Jesus too fell on his face and worshipped God (see Matthew 26:39). Paul knew that Jesus worshipped God (see Hebrews 5:7). Paul taught that Jesus will remain forever subservient to God (see 1 Corinthians 15:28).

Evidence from the Gospel of John

The Gospel of John, the fourth Gospel, was completed to its present form some seventy years after Jesus was raised up to heaven. This Gospel in its final form says one more thing about Jesus that was unknown from the previous three Gospels — that Jesus was the Word of God. John means that Jesus was God’s agent through whom God created everything else. This is often misunderstood to mean that Jesus was God Himself. But John was saying, as Paul had already said, that Jesus was God’s first creature. In the Book of Revelation in the Bible, we find that Jesus is: “the beginning of God’s creation” (Revelation 3:14, also see 1 Corinthians 8:6 and Colossians 1:15).

Anyone who says that the Word of God is a person distinct from God must also admit that the Word was created, for the Word speaks in the Bible saying: “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works...” (Proverbs 8:22).

This Gospel, nevertheless, clearly teaches that Jesus is not God. If it did not continue this teaching, then it would contradict the other three Gospels and also the letters of Paul from which it is clearly established that Jesus is not God. We find here that Jesus was not co-equal with the Father, for Jesus said: “...the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28).

People forget this and they say that Jesus is equal to the Father. Whom should we believe — Jesus or the people? Muslims and Christians agree that God is self-existent. This means that He does not derive his existence from anyone. Yet John tells us that Jesus’ existence is caused by the Father. Jesus said in this Gospel: “...I live because of the Father...” (John 6:57).

John tells us that Jesus cannot do anything by his own when he quotes Jesus as saying: “By myself I can do nothing...” (John 5:30).This agrees with what we learn about Jesus from other Gospels. In Mark, for example, we learn that Jesus performed miracles by a power which was not within his control. This is especially clear from an episode in which a woman is healed of her incurable bleeding. The woman came up behind him and touched his cloak, and she was immediately healed. But Jesus had no idea who touched him. Mark describes Jesus’ actions thus: “At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’” (Mark 5:30). His disciples could not provide a satisfactory answer, so Mark tells us: “Jesus kept looking around to see who had done it.” (Mark 5:32). This shows that the power that healed the woman was not within Jesus’ control. He knew that the power had gone out of him, but he did not know where it went. Some other intelligent being had to guide that power to the woman who needed to be healed. God was that intelligent being.

It is no wonder, then, that in Acts of the Apostles we read that it was God who did the miracles through Jesus (Acts 2:22).

God did extraordinary miracles through others too, but that does not make the others God (see Acts 19:11). Why, then, is Jesus taken for God? Even when Jesus raised his friend Lazarus from the dead, he had to ask God to do it. Lazarus’ sister, Martha, knew this, for she said to Jesus: “I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask.” (John 11:22).

Martha knew that Jesus was not God, and John who reported this with approval knew it also. Jesus had a God, for when he was about to ascend to heaven, he said: “I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.” (John 20:17).

John was sure that no one had seen God, although he knew that many people had seen Jesus (see John 1:18 and 1 John 4:12). In fact Jesus himself told the crowds, that they have never seen the Father, nor have they heard the Father’s voice (John 5:37). Notice that if Jesus was the Father, his statement here would be false. Who is the only God in John’s Gospel? The Father alone.

Jesus testified this when he declared that the God of the Jews is the Father (John 8:54). Jesus too confirmed that the Father alone is the only true God (see John 17:1-3). And Jesus said to his enemies: “...you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God.” (John 8:40). According to John, therefore, Jesus was not God, and nothing John wrote should be taken as proof that he was God — unless one wishes to disagree with John.

God and Jesus are two separate beings

For example, in Matthew 9:2, Jesus said to a certain man, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.” Because of this, some say that Jesus must be God since only God can forgive sins. However, if you are willing to read just a few verses further, you will find that the people “...praised God, who had given such authority to men.” (Matthew 9:8). This shows that the people knew, and Matthew agrees, that Jesus is not the only man to receive such authority from God.

Jesus himself emphasized that he does not speak on his own authority (John 14:10) and he does nothing on his own authority, but he speaks only what the Father has taught him (John 8:28). What Jesus did here was as follows. Jesus announced to the man the knowledge Jesus received from God that God had forgiven the man.

Notice that Jesus did not say, “I forgive your sins,” but rather, “your sins are forgiven,” implying, as this would to his Jewish listeners, that God had forgiven the man. Jesus, then, did not have the power to forgive sins, and in that very episode he called himself “the Son of Man” (Matthew 9:6).

John 10:30 is often used as proof that Jesus is God because Jesus said, “I and the father are one.” But, if you read the next six verses, you will find Jesus explaining that his enemies were wrong to think that he was claiming to be God. What Jesus obviously means here is that he is one with the Father in purpose. Jesus also prayed that his disciples should be one just as Jesus and the Father are one. Obviously, he was not praying that all his disciples should somehow merge into one individual (see John 17:11 and 22). And when Luke reports that the disciples were all one, Luke does not mean that they became one single human being, but that they shared a common purpose although they were separate beings (see Acts 4:32). In terms of essence, Jesus and the Father are two, for Jesus said they are two witnesses (John 8:14- 18). They have to be two, since one is greater than the other (see John 14:28). When Jesus prayed to be saved from the cross, he said: “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” (Luke 22:42).

This shows that they had two separate wills, although Jesus submitted his will to the will of the Father. Two wills mean two separate individuals.

Furthermore, Jesus is reported to have said: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). If one of them forsook the other, then they must be two separate entities.

Again, Jesus is reported to have said: “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” (Luke 23:46). If the spirit of one can be placed into the hands of another, they must be two separate beings.

In all of these instances, Jesus is clearly subordinate to the Father. When Jesus knelt down and prayed he obviously was not praying to himself (see Luke 22:41). He was praying to his God.

Throughout the New Testament, the Father alone is called God. In fact, the titles “Father” and “God” are used to designate one individual, not three, and never Jesus. This is also clear from the fact that Matthew substituted the title “Father” in the place of the title “God” in at least two places in his Gospel (compare Matthew 10:29 with Luke 12:6, and Matthew 12:50 with Mark 3:35). If Matthew is right in doing so, then the Father alone is God.

Was Jesus the Father? No! Because Jesus said: “And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.” (Matthew 23:9). So Jesus is not the Father, since Jesus was standing on the earth when he said this.

The Qur'an seeks to bring people back to the true faith that was taught by Jesus, and by his true disciples who continued in his teaching. That teaching emphasized a continued commitment to the first commandment that God is alone. In the Qur'an, God directs Muslims to call readers of the Bible back to that true faith. God have said in the Qur'an:

Say: “O people of the Book (Christians and Jews)! Come to a word that is just between us and you: that we shall worship none but God, and that we shall associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords beside God.” The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 3, Verse 64

- Shabir Ally - Published on 03 Dec 2007

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Did Jesus ever claim to be "Mighty God" or "God"?

From Sheikh Ahmed Deedat's work; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:

Let us look at John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One."  This verse is  severely misunderstood and is taken out of context, because beginning at verse John 10:23 we read (in the context of 10:30) about Jesus talking to the Jews. In verse John 10:28-30, talking about his followers as his sheep, he states: "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."

These verses prove only that Jesus and the Father are one in that no man can pluck the sheep out of either's hand. It does not at all state that Jesus is God's equal in everything. In fact the words of Jesus, " My Father, who gave them me is Greater than ALL...,"  in John 10:29 completely negates this claim, otherwise we are left with a contradiction just a sentence apart. All includes everyone even Jesus. 

Also let us look at verse John 17:20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I in them, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE".  In this verse, the same word ONE used, the Greek, HEN is used, not only to describe Jesus and the Father but to describe Jesus, the Father and eleven of the twelve disciples of Jesus. So here if that implies equality, we have a unique case of 13 Gods.

Of the verse in question, "I and the Father are One" in (John 10:30), we also need to take note of the verses following the 30th verse in the text. In those verses, the Jews accuse Jesus falsely of claiming to be God by these words. He however replies, proving their accusation wrong by their own text: "The Jews answered him saying,'For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because that thou being a man, makest thyself a God '" (John 10:33).  

Jesus replies to this accusation saying: "Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, "I said ye are gods. If He can call them gods, unto whom the word of God came, say ye of him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent into the world, "Thou blasphemeth," because I said I am the son of God?'" (John 10:34-36).

Let us look at Acts 2:22 "O you men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you..."  Peter in the Book of Acts testifies about Jesus.  Jesus thus even to his disciples, as to early Christians, not poisoned by Pauline doctrine, was a man, not a God.

From www.jewsforjudaism.org:

Question: In John 10:30 Jesus says, "I and the Father are one [hen]." Doesn't this show that they are one in essence?

This statement does not suggest either a dual or triune deity. What John's Jesus meant by the word hen ("one") becomes clear from his prayer concerning the apostles: "That they may be one [hen], just as we are one [hen]" (John 17:22), which means that they should be united in agreement with one another as he (Jesus) is always united in agreement with God, as stated: "I [Jesus] always do the things that are pleasing to Him [God]" (John 8:29). 
There is thus no implication that Jesus and God, or the twelve apostles are to be considered as of one essence.

Questions to you

From the names above, do you honestly think that "Strong God", "Yahweh is Strong God", "Yahweh Saves", "God", "Yahweh", "My God is He", "God is Salvation", "Jehovah is Great" and "Mighty God" have much differences in their meanings?

I mean, why consider Jesus as GOD Himself, which is a great blasphemy, when he was given a normal "Godly" title that was given to others before him?

If Jesus was named "Jehovah is Great (Gedaliah)" for instance, then we would see Trinitarian Christians trying their best to prove that he is GOD Almighty Himself.   Why then not consider the people who were named "Gedaliah" before and after Jesus as GOD Almighty Himself also?  Why not consider these people divine as well?

Important Note: So if Jesus was named "Michael or Mike (who is like God)", then we would see Trinitarian Christians claim that he is GOD Almighty, since Exodus 8:10 clearly states that there is non like GOD, and yet Jesus (Mike) is like GOD which would without a doubt make him GOD.  

This is the type of false interpretations and conclusions that Trinitarian Christians fall into.

Very Important Note: The reason why the foretold person would be regarded as "Mighty God" is not because he will be GOD Almighty Himself.  His name or title being "Mighty God" is nothing but a way to show that the person will be very important and very powerful.  He will be like a God on earth because of his Might.  I must emphasize that again, the person's "NAME" will be called "Mighty God".  Isaiah 9:6 never said that the person will be GOD Almighty Himself, or GOD Almighty will be that person.   The word "NAME" means that the name will be just a (misleading) Godly title as many misleading Godly titles were given to others before and after Jesus peace be upon him in the Bible.  I must also emphasize that in the New Testament, Jesus was not even once called or addressed as "Mighty God" or "God", nor did he ever claim to be "Mighty God" or "God".  So if he were indeed the foretold person in Isaiah 9:6 (which I personally believe he were), then this means that Jesus peace be upon him is not GOD Almighty, but a powerful Messenger of GOD Almighty or someone who has Might that was chosen by GOD Almighty.  The Jews as I mentioned above, believe that the person is Hezekiah and not Jesus.  Either way, the person in Isaiah 9:6 is not GOD Almighty Himself.

Prince of Peace (Muhammad PBUH) or Jesus son of Mary (PBUH) in Isaiah 9:6 Full analysis in detail

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1. Gospel of John Chapter 14 verses 1 -- 6 ( John 14:6)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
In order to understand the verse better we should read the context i.e. Gospel of John chapter 14 verse 1 to 6
"Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe in God, believe also in me.
In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.'
Thomas saith unto him, 'Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?'
Jesus saith unto him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father, but by me.'"
[John 14:1-6]

2. EVERY PROPHET IN HIS TIME IS THE WAY TO GOD
Jesus (pbuh) being a prophet of God rightly said that he was the way to God. Every Prophet of God, is the truth and the way to God. Moses (pbuh) during his time and for his nation was the way, the truth and life and no man could come to God but through Moses (pbuh). Every prophet of God in his time is the ultimate path and guidance to God.
Today the last and final messenger of God is prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is the way, the truth and the life; no man comes unto God but through his teachings.

3. JESUS (PBUH) SAID HE THAT HAS SEEN ME HAS SEEN THE FATHER
Some Christians consider that Jesus (pbuh) by stating that "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father" in the verses to follow is a proof that Jesus (pbuh) claimed divinity. If you further read it is mentioned in Gospel of John, 14 verse 7 to 10:
"'If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.'
Philip saith unto him, 'Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.'
Jesus saith unto him, 'Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."
[John 14:7-10]

4. KNOWING GOD IS SEEING GOD
Jesus (pbuh) says in the verse no 7
"If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him."
[John 14:7]
Seeing according to Jesus (pbuh) means knowing. Thus he who knows Jesus (pbuh), also knows God. The miracles and works of the prophet (pbuh) bear testimony to the existence of God.

5. ANALYSIS OF JOHN 1:1-18 - http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/analysis-of-john-11-18-prologue-to-john.html  
In the beginning was the word (λόγος 3056 lógos (from 3004 /légō, "speaking to a conclusion") – a word, being the expression of athought; a saying. [Kalimatullah i.e. “Kun” meaning “Be” i.e. Order to “Be” from the “Kun Fayakun” or “Be and he was”]) and Fayakun is the resulting creation which can be any creation of Allah including Jesus son of Mary.

Kun Fayakun is also reminded 3 times in the Quran as it had been said specifically about Jesus son of Mary pbuh at the time of Jesus son of Mary’s pbuh creation around 2047 years ago as follows:

1. She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is! Surat ʾĀl ʿImrān, Sura # 3, Aya # 46-48

2. The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was.Surat ʾĀl ʿImrān, Sura # 3, Aya # 58-60

3. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is. Surat Maryam, Sura # 19, Aya # 34-36

Kun fayakun is the word which Allah used for creation of everything including the creation of Jesus son of Mary pbuh. Kun (كن) is an Arabic word for the act of manifesting, existing or being. In the Qur'an, Allah commands the universe to be ("kun!" !كن), and it is (fayakūn فيكون).

"Kun fayakūn" has its reference in the Quran cited as a Symbol / Sign of God's Mystical Creative Power. The verse is from the Quranic Chapter, Surah Ya-Sin. The context in which the words "kun fayakūn" appear in the 36th Chapter, verse number 77–83:

And the word (λόγος 3056 lógos (from 3004 /légō, "speaking to a conclusion") – a word, being the expression of athought; a saying. [Kalimatullah i.e. “Kun” meaning “Be” i.e. Order to “Be” from the “Kun Fayakun” or “Be and he was”]) and Fayakun is the resulting creation which can be any creation of Allah including Jesus son of Mary.

was with God (θεόν - The God Allmighty 2316 theós (of unknown origin) – properly, God, the Creator and owner of all things (Jn 1:3; Gen 1 - 3).)

and the word (λόγος 3056 lógos (from 3004 /légō, "speaking to a conclusion") – a word, being the expression of athought; a saying. [Kalimatullah i.e. “Kun” meaning “Be” i.e. Order to “Be” from the “Kun Fayakun” or “Be and he was”]) and Fayakun is the resulting creation which can be any creation of Allah including Jesus son of Mary.

was (a) god (θεὸς a godly person i.e. a messenger of God)

Jesus son of Mary is known as Kalimatullah in the Quran i.e. God’s word (Kun fayakun i.e. “Be and he was”) meaning Jesus son of Mary was instantly created by these words of Allah approximately 2047 years ago more or less.

So simplifying John 1:1

In the beginning was Allah’s command (word) [KUN] is in the knowledge of Allah, and that command (word:KUN) was with Allah and that word “KUN” Order to “Be” created Jesus [BE AND HE WAS] son of Mary the messenger of Allah. That word was said by Allah around 2047 years ago so to speak when Jesus was born in the womb of Mary (PBUH). So basically Jesus son of Mary (PBUH) is just created on the Order or Command of Allah.

Solomon is said to have been with God at the beginning of time before all of creation, Proverbs 8:22-3

Infact all souls were with Allah Allmighty before the creation of time so the mention of Prophet Solomon present at the beginning of time in the bible does not mean that Solomon (PBUH) was the only one with God Allmighty before the creation of time. Infact All loins of Adam was present including Solomon. 

Qur'an 7:172 “When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins - their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said: "Yea! We do testify!" (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful."

Therefore none from the children of Adam is going to run away from the oath they had already taken. Children of Adam's hearts have the ability to recognise the Truth. Everyone would have to answer what they have done in this world on the day of judgement. This life is merely a test for the hereafter everyone has been given the chance. Allah already knows who is going to heaven and who is going to hell. The chance people could say that if we had been given the chance we would definitely have worshipped only One ALLAH instead of idols or 3 in 1 or 1 in 3 gods that chance has already been given O children of Adam just check ALLAH told it already in the QURAN 7:172 . Your forefathers are responsible for their own decisions and you are for your own decisions. (Must read http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/on-children-khalil-gibran.html )

“…No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another…” (Quran 6:164)

“The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” (Deuteronomy 24:16)

None can reject that in these two verses, the first from the Quran and the second from the Bible, is an allusion to the same meaning: that the Just God will never punish people for the sins of others.

No intercession will be accepted unless granted by ALLAH.

Does man not consider that We created him from a [mere] sperm-drop – then at once he is an open disputant? And he presents an (argument of) likeness for Us and forgets his own creation. He asks (in confusion): "Who will give life to the bones when they are disintegrated?" Say: "He will give life to them Who brought them into existence at first, and He is cognizant of all creation." He Who has made for you, from the green tree, fire. and then from it you kindle (fire). Is not He Who created the heavens and the earth able to create the like of them? Yes Indeed! and He is the Superb Creator (of all), the Ever-Knowing. Surely His Command, when He wills a thing, is only to say to it: Be! and it is!" Therefore glory be to Him in Whose hand is the Kingdom of all things, and to Him you shall be brought back.

The term also appears as part of 117th verse of the 2nd Quranic Chapter, Surah Baqara.

(Allah,) The Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.

There are 8 Quranic References to KUN FAYAKŪN:

1. She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is! Surat ʾĀl ʿImrān, Sura # 3, Aya # 46-48

2. The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was. Surat ʾĀl ʿImrān, Sura # 3, Aya # 58-60

3. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is. Surat Maryam, Sura # 19, Aya # 34-36

4. To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: “Be,” and it is. Sura Al-Baqara, Sura # 2, Aya # 116-118

5. It is He who created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): the day He saith, “Be,” behold! it is. His word is the truth. His will be the dominion the day the trumpet will be blown. He knoweth the unseen as well as that which is open. For He is the Wise, well acquainted (with all things). Surat Al-Anʿām, Sura # 6, Aya # 72-74

6. Verily, when He intends a thing, His Command is, “be”, and it is! Surat Yaseen, Sura # 36, Aya # 81-83

7. For to anything which We have willed, We but say the word, “Be”, and it is. Surat An-Nahl, Sura # 16, Aya # 39-41

8. It is He Who gives Life and Death; and when He decides upon an affair, He says to it, “Be”, and it is. Surat Ghāfir, Sura # 40, Aya # 67-69

So Allah knows Everything of course and this word. This word is used at the beginning of creation of universes as well as creation of humans and everything.

Allama Dr. Muhammad Iqbal said:

 Ye Kainat Abhi Na-Tamam Hai Shaid

Ke Aa Rahi Hai Damadam Sada’ay ‘Kun Fayakoon’ 

Meaning: 

The Life perhaps is still raw and incomplete: 

Be and it becomes e’er doth a voice repeat.

 Allah's words are not only Quran they are in original zabur, Taurah and injeel also. Allah's words are saved with Allah. The Quran meant to be preserved by humans is intact rest of books Taurah given to Moses and injeel given to isa son of Mary etc.. partially or fully lost bcz those messages books were for particular specific nations therefore not meant to be preserved by humans till judgement day. Also there are many creations before Adam even Jinns and Angels did sajda to Adam on the order of Allah which means the Jinns and Angels were there before mankind. So Jesus being a human being who came into basic existence long after Adam (Alayhissalam)

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Trinitarian Verses

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Trinitarian Verses (part 1 of 4): “A Child Will Be Born To Us…Eternal Father, Prince of Peace”

Description: A discussion of the various passages in which Christians seek to prove the Trinitarian nature of God. Part 1: Isaiah 9:6.

There are several key verses which Christians use to prove the biblical origin of the Trinity. Upon analysis of these verses, one can clearly see that they do not prove the Trinity, but rather the same monotheistic message of God. One of the most frequently cited passages from the Bible is Isaiah 9:6-7, from which Christians conclude that the Messiah must be God incarnate. The passage states:

“or a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, on the throne of David and over his kingdom, to establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness from then on and forevermore the zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this.”

That Isaiah 9:6 has been misinterpreted can be seen from the fact that Jesus is never called the “Eternal Father” anywhere else in Bible. Since the Trinitarian doctrine teaches that Christians should “neither confound the Persons nor divide the Substance” (Athanasian Creed), how can the Trinitarians accept that Jesus is the “Eternal Father”? Let us consider additional facts impartially.

First, all the Hebrew verb forms in Isaiah 9:6 are in the past tense. For example, the word which the Christian Bibles render as “his name will be called” is the two words ‘vayikra shemo,’ which properly translated, should read “his name was called.” The word “vayikra” is the first word to appear in the book of Leviticus (1:1), and it is translated properly over there – in the past tense. In addition, the King James Version translates the same verbs elsewhere in the past tense in Genesis 4:26 and Isaiah 5:25. Only in Isaiah 9:6-7 are these verbs translated in the future tense!

Notice that it says “a child HAS been born to us.” This is an event that has just occurred, not a future event. Isaiah is not making a prophecy, but recounting history. A future event would say a child will be born to us, but this is NOT what the verse says. The Christian translations capitalize the word‘son’ assuming that this is a messianic prophecy and the names of a divine son.

Second, the two letter word “is”, is usually not stated in Hebrew. Rather,“is” is understood. For example, the words “hakelev” (the dog) and “gadol” (big), when joined into a sentence - hakelev gadol - means “the dog IS big,” even though no Hebrew word in that sentence represents the word “is.” A more accurate translation of the name of that child, then, would be “A wonderful counselor is the mighty God, the everlasting father ...”. This name describes God, not the person who carries the name. The name Isaiah itself means “God is salvation,” but no one believes the prophet himself is God in a human body!

Third, the phrase “Mighty God” is a poor translation according to some biblical scholars. Although English makes a clear distinction between “God” and “god,” the Hebrew language, which has only capital letters, cannot. The Hebrew word “God” had a much wider range of application than it does in English. Some suggest a better translation for the English reader would be “mighty hero,” or “divine hero.” Both Martin Luther and James Moffatt translated the phrase as “divine hero” in their Bibles.

Fourth, according to the New Testament, Jesus was never called any of these names in his lifetime.

Fifth, if Isaiah 9:6 is taken to refer to Jesus, then Jesus is the Father! And this is against the Trinitarian doctrine.

Sixth, the fact that the New Testament does not quote this passage shows that even the New Testament authors didn’t take this verse to be in reference to Jesus.

Seventh, the passage is talking about the wonders performed by the Lord for Hezekiah, king of Judah. Preceding verses in Isaiah 9 talk of a great military triumph by Israel over its enemies. At the time Isaiah is said to have written this passage, God had just delivered King Hezekiah and Jerusalem from a siege laid by the Assyrians under General Sennacherib. The deliverance is said to have been accomplished in spectacular fashion: an angel went into the Assyrian camp and killed 185,000 soldiers while they slept. When Sennacherib awoke to find his army decimated, he and the remaining soldiers fled, where he was assassinated by his own sons (Isaiah 37:36-38). Chapters 36 and 37 of Isaiah recount how Hezekiah stood firm in the face of Sennacherib’s vast army and his blasphemous words against the God. When all seemed lost, Hezekiah continued to trust in the Lord, and for this he was rewarded with a miraculous victory. It is interesting to note that the statement, “the zeal of the Lord of hosts will accomplish this,” found at the end of Isaiah 9:7, is found in only two other places in the Bible: Isaiah 37:32 and 2 Kings 19:31. Both these passages discuss the miraculous deliverance of Hezekiah by God. Therefore, in light of the above, Isaiah is recounting God’s defense of Jerusalem during the Assyrian siege. Furthermore, Soncino’s commentary says the chapter is about the fall of Assyria and the announcement of the birth of Hezekiah, the son of Ahaz.

Trinitarian Verses (part 2 of 4): “His Name Shall Be Immanuel”

Description: A discussion of the various passages in which Christians seek to prove the Trinitarian nature of God. Part 2: Is the name Immanuel a proof that Jesus is God?
By IslamReligion.com

The Hebrew name “Immanuel” can be translated as, “God with us” or “God is with us.” Some people believe, based on Isaiah 7:14, that because Jesus would be called “Immanuel,” he must be God incarnate. Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23 are often read around Christmas. They are read as follows:

Isaiah 7:14 “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”

Matthew 1:23 “Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

First, the prophesy states that his name will be Immanuel.”

It does not say that “he will be Immanuel.”

Second, Mary never called her child “Immanuel” as required by the prophecy. According to the Bible, she named him Jesus following instructions by the angel of God.

Matthew 1:25 “but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a son; and he called His name Jesus.”

Luke 1:30-31 “The angel said to her, ‘Do not be afraid, Mary; for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus.”

Third, when read in context, the birth and naming of the child Immanuel was to be a sign for king Ahaz that God was with his people who were about to be invaded by two rival kingdoms (Isa 7:10-16). The promise was fulfilled by God (2 Kings 16:9). The name “God is with us,” means that God will support us. The name makes perfect sense if the child’s name was supposed to indicate to King Ahaz that God was on his side.

Isa 7:10-16 “Again the Lord spoke to Ahaz, ‘Ask the Lord your God for a sign, whether in the deepest depths or in the highest heights.’ But Ahaz said, ‘I will not ask; I will not put the Lord to the test.’ Then Isaiah said, ‘Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of men? Will you try the patience of my God also? Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right. But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste.”

2 Kings 16:9 The king of Assyria complied by attacking Damascus and capturing it. He deported its inhabitants to Kir and put Rezin to death.

Fourth, Isaiah 7:14 in actual Hebrew does not say a virgin would give birth but that a young woman would conceive. The Hebrew word almah, used in Isaiah 7:14 means young woman or maiden, not a virgin. The Hebrew word for virgin is b’tulah. The RSV (Revised Standard Version) Bible is one of the few Christian Bibles that used the translation ‘young woman’ instead of replacing it with the word ‘virgin.’

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, a young woman shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Imman’u-el.

Fifth, when something is “called” a certain name, it does not mean that the thing is literally what it is called. Symbolic names are frequently used by Hebrews in the Bible. Many names would cause great problems if taken literally. Jerusalem is called “the Lord our Righteousness,” and Jerusalem is obviously not God (Jer. 33:16). In Genesis 32:30, we are told that Jacob called a piece of land “Face of God.” Abraham called the mountain on which he was about to sacrifice Ishmael “the Lord will provide,” yet no one would believe that the mountain was God. Similarly, no one would believe an altar was God, even if Moses called it that: “Moses built an altar and called it ‘the Lord is my Banner’” (Ex. 17:15). Would Christians believe that Elijah was “God Jehovah,” or that Bithiah, a daughter of Pharaoh, was the sister of Jesus because her name means “daughter of Jehovah?” Do Christians believe that Dibri, not Jesus, was the “Promise of Jehovah,” or that Eliab was the real Messiah since his name means “My God (is my) father?” Similarly, would they say that Jesus Bar-Abbas, who avoided crucifixion by being set free (Mat. 27:15-26), was the son of God because his name meant “Jesus, son of his Father”? Of course not.

We can conclude that reading Jesus as the fruition of a prophecy in Isaiah is only due to Matthew quoting the prophecy, rather than people actually calling Jesus Immanuel in his lifetime. Furthermore, even if his name was Immanuel, the name does not necessarily reflect the fact, as can be seen from other names linked with God (in the Hebrew forms of El or Yah) belonging to other people. Making the claim that Immanuel means Jesus God in the flesh among His people is therefore merely an example of how the Trinitarian doctrine of incarnation was forced upon the message of Jesus by “bending” prophecies.

Footnotes:“The name Immanuel could mean ‘God be with us’ in the sense ‘God help us.’ “Interpreter’s dictionary of the Bible, vol. 2, p. 686.
The New Revised Standard Version of the Bible from the Westcott-Hort Greek Variants

Trinitarian Verses (part 3 of 4): Alpha and Omega

Description: A discussion of the various passages in which Christians seek to prove the Trinitarian nature of God. Part 3: Who is Alpha and Omega, God, Jesus or both?
By IslamReligion.com

Some people say that since the same titles – Alpha and Omega - are used for both God and Jesus, this proves that they one and the same. It is further claimed that these expressions mean the eternity of the Father and the Son. Upon analysis, we see that this notion raises several problems.

Isaiah 44:6 “This is what the Lord says - Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.”

Revelation 1:8 “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 1:11 “Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:”

Revelation 22:13 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

First, the Book of Revelation is an unreliable book. Early Christians and elders of the Church - Marcion, Caius of Rome, Dionysius of Alexandria, Amphilocius of Iconium, Gregory of Nazianzus, Cyril of Jerusalem, Synod of Laodicea in 360 CE - disputed it. The author of the Revelation identifies himself as some unknown John, but probably not the apostle John because the style of the book is completely different from the Gospel of John. Other than his name, very little is known about him. Martin Luther criticized this book. He wrote in the preface to Revelation,

About this book of the Revelation of John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinions. I would not have anyone bound to my opinion or judgment. I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic… Many of the fathers also rejected this book a long time ago… For me this is reason enough not to think highly of it: Christ is neither taught nor known in it.”

To this day, Lutheran scholars put the Revelation of John in a separate category of disputed books.

Second, Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. Biblical scholars are not completely sure what the phrase “the Alpha and the Omega” means. It cannot be strictly literal, because neither God nor Jesus is a Greek letter. It is like saying God is ‘A’ and ‘Z’. Lenski concludes, “It is fruitless to search Jewish and pagan literature for the source of something that resembles this name Alpha and Omega. Nowhere is a person, to say nothing of a divine Person, called ‘Alpha and Omega’, or in Hebrew, ‘Aleph and Tau’.” Although there is no evidence from the historical sources that anyone is named “the Alpha and Omega,” Bullinger says that the phrase “is a Hebraism, in common use among the ancient Jewish Commentators to designate the whole of anything from the beginning to the end; e.g., ‘Adam transgressed the whole law from Aleph to Tau’.” The best scholarly minds have concluded that the phrase has something to do with starting and finishing something, or the entirety of something.

Third, the doctrine of Alpha and Omega is a sad and unfortunate example of mankind’s tampering with the Word of God. It shows how doctrine is contracted by men to justify false beliefs. The phrase “Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last” (Revelation 1:11) which is found in the King James Version was not in the original Greek texts. Therefore, the Alpha Omega phrase is not found in virtually any ancient texts, nor is it mentioned, even as a footnote, in any modern translation!

Revelation 1:10-11

KJV “and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:”

NIV “and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet, which said: ‘Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches’”

NASB and I heard behind me a loud voice like the sound of a trumpet, saying, “Write in a book what you see, and send it to the seven churches:”

ASV “and I heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet saying, What thou seest, write in a book and send it to the seven churches:”

RSV “and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet saying, “Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches”

NAB (Catholic) “and heard behind me a voice as loud as a trumpet, which said, “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches”

Footnotes:Bible Research, an internet resource by Michael D. Marlowe. (http://www.bible-researcher.com/canon5.html)
A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on The Revelation of St. John by R. H. Charles. T. & T. Clark, 1920
Luther’s Works, vol 35 (St. Louis: Concordia, 1963), pp. 395-399.
R.C.H. Lenski, The Interpretation of St. John’s Revelation (Augsburg Pub. House, Minneapolis, MN 1963), p. 51.
E. W. Bullinger, Commentary on Revelation (Kregel Pub., Grand Rapids, MI, 1984), pp. 147 and 148.

Trinitarian Verses (part 4 of 4): Alpha and Omega

Description: A discussion of the various passages in which Christians seek to prove the Trinitarian nature of God. Part 4: Who is Alpha and Omega, God, Jesus or both?

Fourth, In the Book of Revelation 1:8, King James Version implies that Jesus said he was Alpha and Omega. Since God says He is Alpha and Omega in Isaiah 44:6, Jesus, according to Christians, is claiming divinity here. However, the wording of King James is inaccurate. Not only do all modern translations clarify it was God who said it, not Jesus, but the conveyor of the words is one of God’s angels.

Revelation 1:1-3

NRSV “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place; He made it known by sending His angelto His servant John, who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of the prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and who keep what is written in it; for the time is near.”

With these corrections, it becomes evident that this was a statement of God and not a statement of Jesus, the Prophet of God.

Revelation 1:8

KJV “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”

NIV “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

NASB “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

ASV “I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

RSV ‘“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.’

New American Bible (Catholic) “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “the one who is and who was and who is to come, the almighty.”

Fifth, Revelation 22:13 is part of the vision of an unknown John (not the author of the gospel) in which he claims a visitation by an angel, mentioned in Revelation 21:09.

NRSV “Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, ‘Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.’”

The angel is speaking from Revelation 22:10-13:

NRSV “And he said to me, ‘Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy. See, I am coming soon; my reward is with me, to repay according to everyone’s work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.’

Jesus did not say those words, not is there any indication they refer to him. Then passage continues in verses 14 and 15.

NRSV “Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they will have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.”

This does not appear to be Jesus Christ speaking because the appearance of the first person singular pronoun in 22:16 signals a shift in speaker. Therefore, Alpha and Omega in the passage refers to God Himself, speaking through the angel. This is born out by Revelation 21:5-7, which says:

NRSV “And the One Who was seated on the throne said, ‘See, I am making all things new.’ Also He said, ‘Write this, for these words are trustworthy and true.’ Then He said to me, ‘It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give water as a gift from the spring of the water of life. Those who conquer will inherit these things, and I will be their God and they will be my children.’”

What Jesus is reported as saying is,

NRSV, Revelation 22:16; “‘It is I, Jesus, who sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.’”

Therefore, for the sake of argument, should the saying “I am the Alpha and the Omega” actually pertain to other than Jesus, can one gamble personal salvation on a vision claimed by an author whose identity is not clear, and whose book is disputed as being reliably canon?

Sixth, what is significant is not so much the use of this name, but the fact that God is always superior to Jesus when the Bible describes the relationship between God and Jesus as explained elsewhere.

We can see from this analysis that these verses which Christians use to prove that Jesus is the son of God cannot be used in proving the Trinity. Rather, an examination of the history of the theological development in Church philosophy will reveal that the Trinity was a concept developed much later in Christianity due to various socio-political factors, which later Christians sought to justify through various passages of the Bible.

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Lamb of God - Courtesy Dr. Lawrence Brown

There is nothing worse than a sharp image of a fuzzy concept. 

-Ansel Adams

Many Christians claim to find proof of the crucifixion and atonement in John 1 :29, which calls Jesus Christ the "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world." Others are more speculative, and for good reason.

To begin with, Christians disagree on the meaning and significance of this concept of "lambness." Some question the Bible translation while still others fail to link Old and New Testament "Lamb of God" references into a reasonable chain of logic. Even John the Baptist, whom this verse quotes, seemed to have trouble with the term.
The Christian claim is that John the Baptist knew who Jesus was, and identified him as the "Lamb of God" in John 1 :29. But if he knew Jesus so well as to identify him with certainty in one verse, why did he question Jesus years later: "Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?" (Matthew 11 :3)

Among those who have difficulty rectifying Old and New Testament inconsistencies are Catholic clergy themselves. The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits inability to determine the origin of the title "Lamb of God," for although attempts are made to trace the term through Isaiah (Chapter 53) by way of Acts 8:32, "this text is incapable of explaining the expression ... " (New Catholic Encyclopedia Vol 8, p.338)

The Theological Dictionary of the New Testament has this to say:

"The Aramaic might also offer a basis with its use of the same word for both 'lamb' and 'boy or servant.' Thus the Baptist in Jn. 1:29,36 might have been describing Jesus as the servant of God who takes away the sin of the world in vicarious self-offering (Is. 53)."(221-Kittel, Gerhard and Gerhard Friedrich. p.54.) Excuse me, but was that servant of God? Hm ... lamb/servant; animal/human ... Perhaps we should be content that the translators confined their differences within the same animal kingdom, but all the same ...

So could John the Baptist's native Aramaic have been corrupted in translation to the New Testament Greek amnos? Could the correct translation be "boy" or "servant" rather than "lamb?" If so, any link between Old and New Testament references to "Lamb of God" would shred faster than ticker tape in a turboprop. Hence, it is with great interest that we encounter the New Catholic Encyclopedia agreeing that the Aramaic word talya' can be translated to "boy" or "servant," as well as "lamb." (222- New Catholic Encyclopedia Vol 8, p.339) Furthermore, the proposal that the phrase uttered by the Baptist was "Behold the Servant of God," and not "Behold the Lamb of God" is, in their words, "very plausible" and "much easier to explain.'?" (ibid p.339)

As with pais theou, the first translation of which is "servant of God" rather than "Son of God," could this be yet one more instance of theologically prejudiced mistranslation? Quite possibly.

Finally, there is the now-familiar pattern of Jesus being labeled "Lamb of God" in the Gospel of John but in none of the other gospels, which implies a minority opinion or, at the very least, lack of substantiation. Once again, the vote is three gospel authors to one that the phrase was never spoken in the first place, or not stated with the meaning into which it has been translated. Had the original meaning been "servant of God," (assuming the phrase was uttered in the first place) the other three gospel authors are to be applauded for refusing to corrupt the message into an abstract recipe of "lambness." On the other hand, if we are to trust the Bible as the word of God, we have to wonder why God didn't inspire this knowledge to the other three gospel authors. Assuming God's objective to be that of spreading His truth as widely and precisely as possible, we have to ask which is more likely: 

1. Our infallible God failed to propagate His truth three times (uh-no).

2. The author of the book of John, verses 1:29 & 1 :36, espoused a false doctrine twice. (Possible, but let's assume not, for if this were the case it becomes difficult to trust any part of the Bible.)

3. The true meaning is "servant of God," but doctrinal prejudice resulted in the translation "Iamb of God."

Perhaps we should consider this issue in the context of Christian creed as a whole, for the doctrine of Jesus being the "Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world" bleeds into those of original sin and atonement. After all, what's the need for a sacrificial lamb, if not to atone for the (original) sin of the world?

Further reading on Lamb of God http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/10/25/examining-the-engineering-behind-jesus-p-title-as-lamb-of-god/comment-page-1/#comment-1207 

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I AM analysis

In John 8:58 Greek word used is: Ego Eimi. Exodus 3:14, when God speaks in Greek, it is: HO ON. IF Jesus was God, he would have used the SAME "HO ON" as God used in Exodus 3:14, yet he never. 100's of people said "I am" back then, does it make them God? NO! 

John 8:59, the people took him LITERALLY and thought he claimed divinity, which is why they tried to kill him because a man CANNOT be God (Job 9:32, Hosea 11:9, Numbers 23:19, 1 Samuel 15:29) and Jesus said follow O.T (Mat5:17-20)

Jesus used the phrase "I am."

The phrase in question with regards to Jesus can be found in the bible in John 8:58 where Jesus says: "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." 

Let us re-read and think about this statement for a moment. It does not make sense! What is Jesus trying to say? The Christians will claim that Jesus was claiming to be God in that only God has used the phrase: "I AM" in the past to refer to himself. Specifically, references are made to Exodus 3:14 where there is a dialogue between God and Moses*. The passage reads as follows:

Exodus 3:14 - And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Christians will make the connection between the two verses and proclaim Jesus* as divine. In addition, Christians will make the point that the disbelieving Jews confronting Jesus even understood that Jesus was claiming divinity by the use of the phrase. The proof is that when they heard the phrase "I am" from Jesus*, the Jews wanted to stone him for blasphemy. But to determine whether this was the case, the context of the entire passage in the Bible must be read:

John 8:51 - Truly, truly, I say to you, if any one keeps my word, he will never see death." 52 The Jews said to him, "Now we know that you have a demon. Abraham died, as did the prophets; and you say, 'If any one keeps my word, he will never taste death.' 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you claim to be?" 54 Jesus answered, "If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing; it is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say that he is your God. 55 But you have not known him; I know him. If I said, I do not know him, I should be a liar like you; but I do know him and I keep his word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he was to see my day; he saw it and was glad." 57 The Jews then said to him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?" 58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." 59 So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple.

Notice that the above passage is about the Jews being disturbed that Jesus might be claiming to be greater than Abraham*. The Jewish accusations and the ensuing conflict with Jesus has nothing to do with Jesus claiming divinity. In fact, the Jews are accusing Jesus* of being possessed by a demon. Once Jesus answered, the Jews pick up stones to stone him. But why stone him? Because they believed that he was possessed by a demon. The answer is in the bible, and it is as follows:

Leviticus 20:27 - And if there be a man or a woman in whom is a spirit of Python or of divination, they shall certainly be put to death: they shall stone them with stones; their blood is upon them.

But what about the fact that Jesus used the phrase, "I am". So what! Every day millions of people in the world in many languages refer to themselves using similar phrases. If I use the phrase, it does not mean that I am claiming to be a god. Regardless of this fact, reading the passage, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am", would not make sense if the phrase, "I am", is used as a noun. The sentence is only understood in the context of the passage if we read the last clause, the phrase "I am", to mean "I was or I was present." This last understanding is consistent with the Greek translation and definition of the phrase. In Greek, the phrase "I am" is "Ego Eimi" where Ego is defined as I, me, and My. Eimi is defined as: to be, to exist, to happen, to be present.

Isaiah 43:11 - I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no savior.

Isaiah 45:15 - Truly, thou art a God who hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Savior.

Isaiah 45:21 - Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me.

Hosea 13:4 - I am the LORD your God from the land of Egypt; you know no God but me, and besides me there is no savior.

In John chapter 10 verse 30 : "I and my father are one" --- here i ask u why do u take this literally? 
it is a metaphorical statement which is proved from the previous verses in the same chapter........ 

Verse 27 : "My sheep listen to my voice; i know them , and they follow me.
Verse 28 : "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; NO ONE CAN TAKE THEM OUT OF MY HAND
Verse 29 : "My Father, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME, IS GREATER THAN ALL; NO ONE CAN SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY FATHER"S HAND.

then immediately he goes on to say in verse 30 : "I and my father are one" (No One Can Take Them Out Of Jesus' Hand Nor His Father's Hand)


John 10:33 “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.” 

This is what the jews are saying.... the jews "thought" that he was claiming divinity but he tries his best to clear out their misconception in the verses to follow..... he never says he is God.


[[[[John 20:28 Thomas's confession of faith to Jesus, "My Lord and my God!"]]]]
I read the verses and it is very clear tht Thomas doesnt refer to Jesus (peace be upon him) as God... it is just an exclamatory sentence!!!!!!!
Thomos says this when he discovers tht Jesus (peace be upon him) is not dead, so he exclaims 'My God!!!" ..... he doesnt say u (Jesus) r God 


In contrast to this, the Quran very plainly says in Surah Ikhlas chapter 112 verses 1-4 : 
1)" Say: He is Allah (God), the One and Only
2) Allah (God), the Eternal, Absolute;
3) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten
4) And there is none like unto Him."

Let us look at what the English word "worship" means from www.dictionary.com
Worship:
http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=worship 


1. wor•ship n.
   a. The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol, or a sacred object.
   b. The ceremonies, prayers, or other religious forms by which this love is expressed.
2. Ardent devotion; adoration.
3. often Worship Chiefly British. Used as a form of address for magistrates, mayors, and certain other dignitaries: Your Worship.

v. worshiped, or worshipped worshiping, or worshipping worships or worships 
v. tr.
1. To honor and love as a deity.
2. To regard with ardent or adoring esteem or devotion. See Synonyms at revere1.

Further definition:
Revere:
http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=revere
re•vere
tr.v. re•vered, re•ver•ing, re•veres
To regard with awe, deference, and devotion.
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Synonyms: revere, 1worship, venerate, adore, idolize
These verbs mean to regard with the deepest respect, deference, and esteem. Revere suggests awe coupled with profound honor: “At least one third of the population... reveres every sort of holy man” (Rudyard Kipling). Worship implies reverent love and homage rendered to God or a god: The ancient Egyptians worshiped a number of gods. In a more general sense worship connotes an often uncritical devotion: “She had worshiped intellect” (Charles Kingsley). Venerate connotes reverence accorded by virtue, especially of dignity or age: “I venerate the memory of my grandfather” (Horace Walpole). To adore is to worship with deep, often rapturous love: The students adored their caring teacher. Idolize implies worship like that accorded an object of religious devotion: He idolizes his wife.

As we clearly see above in the high lighted words in dark green, the word worship may not necessarily be used for GOD Almighty alone, even in the English language. It could very well be used for showing a great respect for someone you highly regard or love.
There is a difference between taking just a word and making a false dogma out of it, and taking the whole argument of Jesus about the word "worship" in the Bible, and clearly see that he defined the True Religious Worship to be for GOD Almighty alone, and not for anyone else, as clearly shown above.
Important Note: In the next section below in this article, you will clearly see that the word "Worship" is not even the correct translation according to the Greek Bibles. All of the necessary quotes and references that prove this are listed in the next section below in this article.
Let us look at some of the weak "Trinitarian" verses that supposedly prove Jesus to be the Creator of the Universe according to their false dogma:
"Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 28:9)"
"While he was blessing them, he left them and was taken up into heaven. Then they worshiped him and returned to Jerusalem with great joy. And they stayed continually at the temple, praising God. (From the NIV Bible, Luke 24:51-53)"
"Then the man said, 'Lord, I believe,' and he worshiped him. (From the NIV Bible, John 9:38)"
"And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, 'Let all God's angels worship him.' (From the NIV Bible, Hebrews 1:6)"
Very nice, it seems that Trinitarians are confused about people loving and adoring Jesus peace be upon him so much that they would greet him by either bending down their heads while standing (which could be considered an act of worship), or by bowing down on their hands and knees and greeting him with an act of worship. They think this would without a doubt the Creator of the Universe.
Notice in Luke 24:53 it says "praising God" and not "praising Jesus". After they finished greeting Jesus, who was given the power to heal the sick, cure the blind, and bring the dead into life, they returned to Jerusalem and Worshiped GOD Almighty.
Please be advised that some people in the Old Testament were too given the power to heal the sick, cure the blind, and bring the dead into life by GOD Almighty. So Jesus' miracles don't prove that he is GOD Almighty at all! Read 1 Kings 17:22, 2 Kings 4:34, 2 Kings 6:17,20, 2 Kings 5:14, and 2 Kings 4:44 for more details.
As I said, you have to take the entire argument of Jesus about the word "worship" to fully understand that GOD Almighty is an Absolute Undivided One GOD.
the Greek word used for what the Biblical editors mistranslate as "Worshipped" is 'prosekunesan'. It is derived from 'proskuneo' (4352), which literally means bow, crouch, crawl, kneel or prostrate. Interestingly, there is absolutely no text of prayer associated with the recorded acts of "prosekuneo" to Jesus {peace be upon him} in the Bible.
That is why, for example when dealing with the subject of the three wise sages encountering the infant Jesus {peace be upon him} as recorded in Mathew 2:11, instead of using the word "worshipped", the'New English Bible' translates the text of the quoted verse as: "bowed to the ground". 
Furthermore, in the 'New Revised Standard Version' the text of the quoted verse reads: "they knelt down and paid him homage".

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Who invented the Trinity?

The three monotheistic religions – Judaism, Christianity, and Islam – all purport to share one fundamental concept: belief in God as the Supreme Being, the Creator and Sustainer of the Universe. 

This concept of the Oneness of God was stressed by Moses in a Biblical passage known as the ‘Shema’, or the Jewish creed of faith “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Prophet Jesus, when he said “...The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.” (Mark 12:29)

Prophet Muhammad came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message again “And your God is One God: there is no God but He...” (Quran 2:163)

Christianity has digressed from the concept of the Oneness of God, however, into a vague and mysterious doctrine that was formulated during the fourth century.

This doctrine, which continues to be a source of controversy both within and outside the Christian religion, is known as the Doctrine of the Trinity. Simply put, the Christian doctrine of the Trinity states that God is the union of three divine persons – the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit – in one divine being.

If that concept, put in basic terms, sounds confusing, the flowery language in the actual text of the doctrine lends even more mystery to the matter “...we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity... for there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, another of the Holy Ghost is all one... they are not three gods, but one God... the whole three persons are co-eternal
and co-equal... he therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity...” (Athanasian Creed)

Let’s put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father, plus one person, God the Son, plus one person, God the Holy Ghost, equals one person, God the What? Is this English or is this gibberish?

It is said that Athanasius, the bishop who formulated this doctrine, confessed that the more he wrote on the matter, the less capable he was of clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it. How did such a confusing doctrine get its start?

Trinity in the Bible

References in the Bible to a Trinity of divine beings are vague, at best.

In Matthew 28:19, we find Jesus telling his disciples to go out and preach to all nations. While this ‘Great Commission’ does make mention of the three persons who later become components of the Trinity, the phrase ‘...baptizing them in the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost’ is quite clearly an addition to Biblical text – that is, not the actual words of Jesus – as can be seen by two factors:

1) baptism in the early Church, as discussed by Paul in his letters, was done only in the name of Jesus; and
2) the ‘Great Commission’ was found in the first gospel written, that of Mark, bears no mention of Father, Son and/or Holy Ghost – see Mark 16:15.

The only other reference in the Bible to a Trinity can be found in the Epistle of 1 John 5:7. Biblical scholars of today, however, have admitted that the phrase:

“...there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” …is definitely a ‘later addition’ to Biblical text, and it is not found in any of today’s versions of the Bible.

It can, therefore, be seen that the concept of a Trinity of divine beings was not an idea put forth by Prophet Jesus or any other prophet of God. This doctrine, now subscribed to by Christians all over the world, is entirely man-made in origin.

The doctrine takes shape While Paul of Tarsus, the man who could rightfully be considered the true founder of Christianity, did
formulate many of its doctrines, that of the Trinity was not among them. He did, however, lay the groundwork for such when he put forth the idea of Jesus being a ‘divine Son’. After all, a Son does need a Father, and what about a vehicle for God’s revelations to man? In essence, Paul named the principal players, but it was the later Church people who put the matter together.

Tertullian, a lawyer and presbyter of the third century Church in Carthage, was the first to use the word ‘Trinity’ when he put forth the theory that the Son and the Spirit participate in the being of God, but all are of one being of substance with the Father.

A formal doctrine is drawn up When controversy over the matter of the Trinity blew up in 318 between two church men from Alexandria – Arius, the deacon, and Alexander, his bishop – Emperor Constantine stepped into the fray.

Although Christian dogma was a complete mystery to him, he did realize that a unified church was necessary for a strong kingdom. When negotiation failed to settle the dispute, Constantine called for the first ecumenical council in Church history in order to settle the matter once and for all.

Six weeks after the 300 bishops first gathered at Nicea in 325, the doctrine of the Trinity was hammered out.

The God of the Christians was now seen as having three essences, or natures, in the form of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

The church puts its foot down

The matter was far from settled, however, despite high hopes for such on the part of Constantine. Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, a man named Athanasius, began arguing over the matter even as the Nicene Creed was being signed; ‘Arianism’ became a catch-word from that time onward for anyone who didn’t hold to the doctrine of the Trinity.

It wasn’t until 451, at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of the Pope, the Nicene/ Constantinople Creed was set as authoritative. Debate on the matter was no longer tolerated; to speak out against the Trinity was now considered blasphemy,
and such earned stiff sentences that ranged from mutilation to death. Christians now turned on Christians, maiming and slaughtering thousands because of a difference of opinion.

Debate continues

Brutal punishments and even death did not stop the controversy over the doctrine of the Trinity, however, and the said controversy continues even today.

The majority of Christians, when asked to explain this fundamental doctrine of their faith, can offer nothing more than ‘I believe it because I was told to do so.’ It is explained away as ‘mystery’ – yet the Bible says “…

God is not the author of confusion…” (1 Corinthians 14:33)

The Unitarian denomination of Christianity has kept alive the teachings of Arius in saying that God is one; they do not believe in the Trinity. As a result, mainstream Christians abhor them, and the National Council of Churches has refused their admittance. In
Unitarianism, the hope is kept alive that Christians will someday return to the preaching of Jesus “Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve.” (Luke 4:8)

Islam and the matter of the Trinity

While Christianity may have a problem defining the essence of God, such is not the case in Islam “They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity:

for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.”
(Quran 5:73)

It is worth noting that the Arabic language Bible uses the name ‘Allah’ as the name of God.

Suzanne Haneef, puts the matter quite succinctly when she says:

‘But God is not like a pie or an apple which can be divided into three thirds which form one whole; if God is three persons or possesses three parts, He is assuredly not the Single, Unique, Indivisible Being which God is and which Christianity professes to
believe in.’ (What everyone should know about Islam)
Looking at it from another angle, the Trinity designates God as being three separate entities – the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. If God is the Father and also the Son, He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is not exactly logical. Christianity claims to be a monotheistic religion.

Monotheism, however, has as its fundamental belief that God is One; the Christian doctrine of the Trinity – God being Three-in-One – is seen by Islam as a form of polytheism. Christians don’t revere just One God, they revere three.

This is a charge not taken lightly by Christians, however. They, in turn, accuse the Muslims of not even knowing what the Trinity is, pointing out that the Quran sets it up as Allah the Father, Jesus the Son, and Mary his mother. While veneration of Mary has
been a figment of the Catholic Church since 431 when she was given the title ‘Mother of God’ by the Council of Ephesus, a closer examination of the verses in the Quran most often cited by Christians in support of their accusation, shows that the designation of Mary by the Quran as a ‘member’ of the Trinity, is simply not true.

While the Quran does condemn both Trinitarianism and the worship of Jesus and his mother Mary, nowhere does it identify the actual three components of the Christian Trinity. The position of the Quran is that WHO or WHAT comprises this doctrine is not important; what is important is that the very notion of a Trinity is an affront against the concept of One God.

In conclusion, we see that the doctrine of the Trinity is a concept conceived entirely by man; there is no sanction whatsoever from God to be found regarding the matter simply because the whole idea of a Trinity of divine beings has no place in monotheism. In the Quran, God’s Last and Final Revelation to mankind, we find His stand quite clearly stated in a number of eloquent passages:

“Say: ‘I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah: whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.’” (Quran 18:110)

“These are among the (precepts of) wisdom, which thy Lord has revealed to thee. Take not, with Allah, another object of worship, lest thou shouldst be thrown into Hell, blameworthy and rejected.” (Quran 17:39)

God tells us over and over again in a Message that is echoed throughout all His Revealed Scriptures “Verily, this brotherhood of yours is a single brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore serve Me (and no other).” (Quran 21:92)

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Ten Ways the Bible Disproves the Trinity.

The doctrine of the Trinity defines God as one being who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Put simply, “one God in three persons”. Each of these persons has their own will, personality and they each perform different roles. While distinct from one another in these regards, in all else they are stated to be co-equal, and “each is God, whole and entire”. This is a typical diagram used by Trinitarians to summarise the doctrine of the Trinity:

Now, if the Trinity represents the truth about the nature of God Almighty, and was preached by Jesus (peace be upon him), then one would expect this to be reflected clearly throughout the Bible. Moreover, one would not expect to find anything which negates the doctrine. What follows are ten reasons, taken from the Bible, that disprove the doctrine of the Trinity.

1. God does not change.

The Bible describes God as unchanging in nature:

“I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6]

They will perish, but you will remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away, but you are the same, and your years have no end. [Psalm 102:26-27]

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. [James 1:17]

Trinitarians believe that God temporarily took on flesh when the second person of the Trinity, the Son, entered into humanity as Jesus. At this point God was subject to the limitations of human beings, such as needing to eat, drink and sleep, because of the human nature of Jesus. Once Jesus was crucified, resurrected and ascended back to God, he took on a new glorified, spiritual body and is free of all the limitations he had when he was here on earth.

Because Trinitarians believe that Jesus did not cease being God whilst he was here on earth, there is conflict with the statements of the Bible that affirm God’s unchanging nature. You can’t have an unchanging God on the one hand, and a ‘person’ of Him that is changing. If Jesus took on a human nature, whilst at the same time still being God, then the implication is that in becoming man, the nature of God changed. When Jesus then ascended and took on a glorified, spiritual body, whilst still being God, then the nature of God changed once again. Here is a diagram which summarises the Trinitarian claims and why they are a problem (please click on picture to enlarge):

Now, Trinitarians often try to escape this predicament by saying that the nature of God didn’t really change, rather an additional nature was taken on. This is a game of semantics, regardless of what happened – the taking on of an additional nature, a mixing of natures etc. – the overall nature of God is different to what it was before. If it wasn’t, then one has to question the purpose of the incarnation in the first place! Now imagine if the reverse was the case, a regular human being took on a divine nature in addition to their human nature. No Trinitarian would argue that this scenario doesn’t result in a change of nature to the human being. They wouldn’t argue, “well, this man-God hasn’t really changed in nature, his original finite human nature is only being complemented by an additional infinite nature”. Yet this scenario is no different to God becoming man, the only difference is the direction of change (God → man v.s. man → God). Clearly, God changed, and clearly, the Trinity conflicts with God’s unchanging nature.

2. It compromises God’s absolute perfection.

God Almighty by definition is absolutely and eternally perfect in nature, He cannot degrade into a worse state and He cannot improve into a better state.

We’ve already seen that belief in the Trinity necessitates that the nature of God changed. This raises an uncomfortable question: was the nature of God more or less perfect when He took on flesh and entered into humanity? If He was more perfect before becoming human, then this implies that God’s perfect nature was temporarily compromised whilst Jesus was here on earth as a man. If however He was more perfect after becoming human, then this implies that God was eternally inferior in nature beforehand. Both propositions are blasphemous.

3. All persons of the Trinity are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. [Matthew 12:32]

If the three persons of the Trinity are equal in importance and all are 100% God, then why is speaking a word of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit an unforgivable sin, while doing a similar act against the Son, Jesus, can be forgiven? Since only the Holy Spirit has the right to not be blasphemed against, it seems that some persons of the Trinity are more equal than others!

4. Jesus acknowledges that he has a God.

Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” [John 20:17]

Trinitarians attempt to explain such statements away by saying that it was only the human side of Jesus being subservient to God, not his divine side. The problem is that later in the Bible, after Jesus has ascended and cast aside all human limitations, he is still saying “my God”:

I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. [Revelation 3:11-12]

So their explanation of the human side of Jesus doing the talking falls apart when he is still using the same language of subservience as he did whilst he was here on earth.

5. Jesus surrenders his kingdom to God.

Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this,then the Son himself will be made subject to himwho put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. [1 Corinthians 15:24-28]

If Jesus is fully God, and an equal member of the Trinity, then why does Jesus give back his kingdom to God the Father when our world comes to an end? In addition, why is Jesus made subject to God after he has surrendered his kingdom over? Clearly, God is forever supreme over all, including Jesus.

6. Not defined anywhere in the Bible.

The nature of God is undoubtedly the most fundamental aspect of a religion. Scripture should provide a clear picture of who our Creator is, otherwise how can we be expected to properly worship that which we don’t understand?

If God wanted humanity to believe in His Triune nature, then why isn’t it clearly and explicitly defined anywhere in Scripture? There is no statement to be found anywhere in the Bible where God is described as being three co-equal persons, Father Son and Holy Ghost. This is in spite of the fact that there were numerous opportunities that were presented to Jesus where he could have spelled this out in detail:

One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

“Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbour as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” [Mark 12:29-33]

It’s important to note that the Jewish understanding of the commandments rejects all notions of God being a Trinity. So in the passages above, by simply repeating the commandment about God being One, Jesus is re-affirming the Jewish understanding of God’s nature and therefore rejecting the Trinitarian understanding. This was the perfect opportunity for Jesus to correct the Jew’s misconceptions about God and give him the Trinitarian understanding of God being three co-equal persons, Father Son and Holy Ghost. As we have seen the exact opposite is the case, his answers provides ammunition to use against the Trinity.

Because there is a lack of a clear, explicit statement in support of the Trinity, what we find is that in order to support the doctrine of the Trinity using the Bible, Trinitarians have to cobble together bits and pieces of unrelated scripture in order to try and form a picture of a Triune God. Is the Bible a book of guidance or a Da Vinci code?

7. Fabrications inserted into the Bible to support the doctrine.

Now, there is a single statement in some versions of the Bible that comes very close to the doctrine of the Trinity. This verse is known as the Johannine Comma:

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” [1 John 5:7]

This verse used to be in all Bibles; however the editors of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) and New International Version (NIV) have removed the verse (please click on picture to enlarge):

Notice how verse 7 in the RSV is different to verse 7 in the KJV. The RSV does not contain the mention of the Trinity. Also notice that verse 7 in the NIV is different to not only the KJV but also the RSV. The NIV also does not contain the mention of the Trinity. The RSV and NIV have had to split other verses into two parts in order to make up for the deletion of the Johannine Comma, this is so that the verse numbers across all three versions of the Bible line up the same.

The King James Version (KJV) has grave defects, and so these newer versions of the Bible (which are based on older and hence more reliable manuscripts) were produced. Here is the NIV footnote regarding this verse:

Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. {8} And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)

In other words, it is a fabricated verse that was inserted into the New Testament over 1,500 years after Jesus. Trinitarians should reflect on this question: why is the only clear Scriptural evidence for their beliefs a fabrication? Clearly, it had to be forced into the Bible to lend support for the doctrine because it is unbiblical.

8. Trinitarian scholars manipulate the Bible to protect the doctrine.

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. [John 17:3]

This statement in the Bible is devastating to the doctrine of the Trinity, as it clearly identifies God as the only true God to the exclusion of Jesus. Here Jesus defines his own position as the Messiah, distinct from the Godhead, which consists of the Father alone.

In fact so devastating is this statement, that major pro-Trinitarian scholars of the past have resorted to manipulating the Bible in order to protect the doctrine of the Trinity. We note the remarkable comment of the celebrated Church Father Augustine. Augustine of Hippo is viewed as one of the most important Church Fathers in Western Christianity. It was so difficult for Augustine to harmonise John 17:3 with the doctrine of the Trinity, that this immensely influential church leader actually restructured Jesus’ words to accommodate both the Father and Son in the Godhead. Augustine, in his “Homilies on John”, boldly asserts that John 17:3 means:

“This is eternal life, that they may know Thee and Jesus Christ, whom Thou hast sent, as the only true God.” [1]

This daring alteration of the Bible seriously distorts the original meaning of the words in order to include Jesus in the Godhead. Such forcing of the text merely exposes Augustine’s desperation to protect his creed in the Bible.

9. God is above Jesus in hierarchy.

But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. [1 Corinthians 11:3]

This statement was uttered after Jesus had ascended and cast aside his human limitations. If the Trinity is true, then surely Paul (the author of the above statement) would have uttered something along the lines of “man is the head of a woman, and God and Christ are the head of man” which would imply a horizontal relationship between the persons in the Trinity. Clearly, God is above Jesus in this hierarchy, implying no co-equality between them, and thus there is no Trinity.

10. Necessitates the belief in three gods.

Now the Pharisees who had been sent questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” [John 1:24-25]

Here John has described a ‘trinity’ of persons, the Messiah, Elijah and the Prophet. These are three distinct persons, each with their own will, personality and function. What they share in common is their nature, humanity. We can convert this into a similar diagram that Trinitarians use to explain the Trinity (please click on picture to enlarge):

No one in their right mind would say that the Messiah, Elijah and the Prophet are three persons in one human, even though they all share in the same nature – humanity. Yet this is exactly what they are saying with regards to the Trinity. Clearly, Trinitarians believe in three separate gods, not one, just as they believe in three separate human beings. This is a clear violation of what Moses, Jesus and all the Prophets of the Bible taught: God is One.

References

1 – Homilies on John, tractate CV, chapter 17.

Courtesy: http://manyprophetsonemessage.com/2014/12/01/ten-ways-the-bible-disproves-the-trinity/

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Further Important readings:  

http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/son-of-god-or-servant-of-god-by-tiger.html Matthew 12:18, Acts 3:13(RSV), Acts 4:27(RSV), Luke 3:38, Jeremiah 31:9, Psalms [2:7], Exodus 4:22, Romans 8:14, Genesis 6:2-4, Deuteronomy 14:1, Deuteronomy 32:8, Deuteronomy 32:19, 2 Samuel 7:14, 1 Chronicles 17:13, 1 Chronicles 22:10, 1 Chronicles 28:6, Psalm 2:7, Also find references where different Prophets called God as father. (Jesus Moses and other Prophets only said in metaphorical sense.

1. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/analysis-of-john-11-18-prologue-to-john.html refuted john 1:1 -18 
2. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/did-jesus-claim-he-was-god-john-858.html - Refuted John 8:58 (I am)
3.  http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/if-jesus-were-god-by-abdul-fatir.html 
4. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/1-john-57-got-long-due-treatment-by.html refuted John 1:5-7
5. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/is-jesus-god-because-he-performed.html   Ezekiel 37:1-9, 2 Kings 4:35, 13:21, 5:14, 4:44, and 6:11, 1 Kings 17:22 and 14, Proverbs 8:22-31
6. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/06/genesis-126-27-image.html Genesis 1:26-27 God created man in his own (i.e. Man's image not of fish or dog or creep) image. God is telling that Man's creation was not like Monkey creation but Man's image or blueprint already decided was then created.
7. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/holy-spirit-is-gabriel-pbuh.html  Luke 1:19, 26 (Creation and Nature of Angels, Jinns and Men) (Who is Holy Spirit exactly and who is Angel of the lord) Also who is Satan/Shaitan/Iblis/Devil.
8. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/short-message-on-idol-worship-including.html
9. http://neurotherapy-of-christian-brain.blogspot.ae/2012/05/quranic-verses-addressed-to-idolators.html   
10. http://islamiat101.blogspot.ae/2012/09/attributes-of-bible-god-vs-attributes.html 
11. http://1islam1.com/en/articles/is-the-dogma-of-the-trinity-compatible-with-the-teachings-of-the-bible.html